Certain springs no, the lowest bid spring, yes.
What is wrong with this GI's rifle?
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Certain springs no, the lowest bid spring, yes.
It was a POS in the 60s cause it was a totally different system lol full auto with the worst followers ever and never issued cleaning kits with garbage barrels.
Now, you can have great followers (assuming your unit got the newest mags) and the barrels are better with more available cleaning equipment
Those things combined make it pretty good, IMO. Like every other firearm, maintenance is mandatory!
Now, you can have great followers (assuming your unit got the newest mags) and the barrels are better with more available cleaning equipment
Those things combined make it pretty good, IMO. Like every other firearm, maintenance is mandatory!
C-grunt
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Looks like bad mag at the beginning and bad mag coupled with bad weapons manipulation at the end.
majortoo
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Sand in the Rifle...
Can't comment about the maintenance or age of the equipment. I was not there. However, some of these soldiers and marines are back in country far too many times. God bless them and their families.
Regarding helmets, I was an advisor with ARVN reconnaissance units. Unlike the U.S. forces, we did not have the luxury of all the artillery, TAC air and all the other support. Accordingly, our tactical choice was "outgun or outrun". Helmets weigh more than boonie hats. We did not wear helmets or flak jackets. Our packs were light, small models about the size of a day pack. We slept in a hammock with a poncho strung overhead, wrapped in a poncho liner to keep warm and fend off mosquitoes. (In the central highlands, the nights got cool!) We were lucky to get a supply chopper every four or five days with rations and fresh batteries for the radios. We did have new M16 rifles; the guy I relieved was issued an M1 carbine! We heard about the U.S. units getting daily supply choppers with hot chow and other good stuff, and we were green with envy! (O.D. GREEN!
Can't comment about the maintenance or age of the equipment. I was not there. However, some of these soldiers and marines are back in country far too many times. God bless them and their families.
Regarding helmets, I was an advisor with ARVN reconnaissance units. Unlike the U.S. forces, we did not have the luxury of all the artillery, TAC air and all the other support. Accordingly, our tactical choice was "outgun or outrun". Helmets weigh more than boonie hats. We did not wear helmets or flak jackets. Our packs were light, small models about the size of a day pack. We slept in a hammock with a poncho strung overhead, wrapped in a poncho liner to keep warm and fend off mosquitoes. (In the central highlands, the nights got cool!) We were lucky to get a supply chopper every four or five days with rations and fresh batteries for the radios. We did have new M16 rifles; the guy I relieved was issued an M1 carbine! We heard about the U.S. units getting daily supply choppers with hot chow and other good stuff, and we were green with envy! (O.D. GREEN!
The weapon he is using probably hasn't been cleaned in a while, it needs maintenance, something could be very wrong with it(most military aren't gun guys and really don't know much about them) and he cant tell, lack of oil, been thrown around way too much with the dust cover down, poor magazines, dirty magazines, his ammo could've been jacked up because he oiled the magazine until it poured out with the ammo still in it, he has poor weapon manipulation, poor weapon remediation, poor trigger control, etc....
The guy is ate up with it. 8^ !
He needs some serious remedial training.
I spent eight years in combat arms(army enlisted in 97 had a 1 year break and re-upped shortly after 9/11) so I have seen some 8^ joes. Notice he is a PFC and it looks like he probably had no firearms training prior to joining. This is likely his first deployment and first firefight, so I'd cut him some slack, but if I were his team leader, he'd get corrective training and I'd square his rifle away and show him how to square it away as well.
The guy is ate up with it. 8^ !
He needs some serious remedial training.
I spent eight years in combat arms(army enlisted in 97 had a 1 year break and re-upped shortly after 9/11) so I have seen some 8^ joes. Notice he is a PFC and it looks like he probably had no firearms training prior to joining. This is likely his first deployment and first firefight, so I'd cut him some slack, but if I were his team leader, he'd get corrective training and I'd square his rifle away and show him how to square it away as well.
Majortoo, welcome home brother.
.... And you are right, they are being deployed far too many times. I'm a service officer for my local VFW and I see more than my share of PTSD cases because of all the deployment.
Stay well..... And thank you for serving.
.... And you are right, they are being deployed far too many times. I'm a service officer for my local VFW and I see more than my share of PTSD cases because of all the deployment.
Stay well..... And thank you for serving.
If the gun was empty no need to use the charging handle and when he did means the gun did not fire all the rounds in the mag and must have jammed. This gun really gets me sick as there never was a rifle that had so much money spent on it tweaking powder, many different bullets ,twist rate ,hand guards ,barrel length, springs, extractors, sights etc. It was and always will be a range gun very accurate and dependable in civilian use. If I had that much money and over 40 years to work on a gun I would have a plasma gun working by now
Vern Humphrey
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Exactly right -- he could have slowed down his rate of fire and been much more effective.
jaysouth
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My BS meter is going active. How does one have a video camera handy for this incident? 
SwissArmyDad
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Lots of soldiers bringing camera's and go-pro's in country. Could have been recording a video to send home or he literally could have set it up once he knew his force was going to engage the taliban.
A quick browse of liveleak shows many, many similar vids.
A quick browse of liveleak shows many, many similar vids.
C-grunt
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Soldier carry cameras frequentlyMy BS meter is going active. How does one have a video camera handy for this incident?
LKLive13
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I'm not really sure what to make of a few comments on this "HIGH ROAD" thread. One cannot speculate what was going through that guys head, sometimes when you are literally under fire you don't think straight. Most troops these days get little more than basic training and specialty training before they are sent to the land of the sand. I was in for all of about 15 months before my boots hit Iraq. Granted... this could be "fake" and he could be a poor weapons expert but there is no reason to dog this man out IMO... none of us were there so we really don't know what was going on.
OP
OP
rdmercer
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And I still can't find this video when I go to the liveleak site. The link still works for viewing and it was there this morning but it is not now. Even going back several pages and I still can't come across it. Kind of strange. Maybe some one else know how to find it.
Not even so much as fancy as a go pro, but those cheap key chain cameras from ebay...you can get them shipped to you right there.
You always want to have video....anymore it is a cover your ass thing.
Vern Humphrey
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But how many of them have the cameraman keeping his back to the enemy?
briansmithwins
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Didn't look like he had a cameraman, just a camera recording video that was laying there.
BSW
Vern Humphrey
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There's a cameraman -- notice how he stays centered in the frame.
MtnCreek
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FWIW, at 0:48 I can see the sear pin.
He didn't stay centered, but he did not leave the frame, because he did not move. The camera did not pan....
Even so, I believe he was firing at an angle over that wall...that is why he kept ducking his head behind it. I believe that wall was between the enemy and the camera
I served in the Army, but was never been in combat, so perhaps I shouldn't comment, but the whole thing seems unreal to me. When the rifle fails, he completely forgets about cover and concealment and concentrates on working the rifle. With bullets flying around, I think I (being a coward) would worry about preserving my hide while correcting rifle problems. It looks more like some kind of "See what junk rifles soldiers have to use" propaganda video than actual combat footage.
As for the camera setup, again this is not my army, but I find it hard to believe that a soldier sets up a camera (or a cameraman sits with his back to the enemy) to record events just in case the soldier happens to have problems with his rifle/ammunition/magazines. Then his hat keeps falling off when he fires. I would dump the hat which, (unlike a helmet) gives no protection at all, and concentrate on aiming at the bad guys.
Jim
As for the camera setup, again this is not my army, but I find it hard to believe that a soldier sets up a camera (or a cameraman sits with his back to the enemy) to record events just in case the soldier happens to have problems with his rifle/ammunition/magazines. Then his hat keeps falling off when he fires. I would dump the hat which, (unlike a helmet) gives no protection at all, and concentrate on aiming at the bad guys.
Jim
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