What kind of accuracy do you and your .308 achieve?

[maskedman504]

Hello Gents~

I am very interested in the accuracy of .308 rifles. What kind of MoA are you getting at 100 yards? Do you have any pictures of your groupings? Are you a hand-loader or do you use manufacturer ammunition? What extreme ranges have you achieved? What rifle are you firing? Are you shooting with iron sights or with an optic?

Rifles of Interest:

Rem 700 Tactical Target Rifle
CZ-550
Tikka T3

PTR-91
Saiga .308
DPMS .308

Thank you in advance for your opinions and your information.

Respectfully,
Benjamin

 

[1858rem]

last time i fired mine, 2MOA......has been as small as 1/4MOA and as large as 6MOA. its been some time since i shot it. most often its good for 10 rounds in 1.5MOA but i dont like to overestimate my guns ability lol

 

[maskedman504]

What gun do you own?

 

[1858rem]

remington 788. long while back i accidentally glued the barrel to the stock while trying to fix a swivel stud. i glass bedded it an probably fixed it but i was flinching so i pretty much quit shooting it now. using a 4-16x40mm centerpoint. handloads some 165 corelokt and some hdy 168's and some nosler 168's. by varget and RL-15

 

[Legionnaire]

100 yards with an accurized Remington 700 VSSF in .308 (shame they stopped building this gun a few years ago). Shooting from prone with 175 grain Federal Gold Medal Match ammo. Optic is a Leupold Vari-X III LRT 3.5-10x40; 30mm tube with mil dot reticle.

 

[JDGray]

My Savage 10FP 20" heavy barrel can easily hold 3/4 moa, with good ammo, on a bad day, shooting prone off a bipod, 4.5-14X scope, no rear support. On a good day, 1/4 moa groups are possible

 

[maskedman504]

100 yards with an accurized Remington 700 VSSF in .308 (shame they stopped building this gun a few years ago). Shooting from prone with 175 grain Federal Gold Medal Match ammo. Optic is a Leupold Vari-X III LRT 3.5-10x40; 30mm tube with mil dot reticle.

That is a very impressive grouping!

 

[elmerfudd]

I've got a Remington LTR that shoots consistently sub-MOA and a Saiga 308 that shoots 2 MOA if I pull out all the stops, (handloads, let barrel cool between shots, no wind, etc...).

 

[gotime242]

Just bought a 700 varmint 26" .308...so ill let you know soon!

 

[USSR]

Sub 0.5MOA

FN SPR in McMillan A5 stock bedded by G.A. Precision.

Don

 

[maskedman504]

Does that count as a one hole group?

Very impressive work.

So it appears that sub-2-MoA should be quite attainable with fairly little trouble; a good optic, match ammunition and a quality firearm. Sub-1-MoA appears to require very deliberate effort.

 

[benzy2]

If you look at the groups all the sub MOA groups have been heavy barreled bolt rifles and the others have been semis or sporter weight. Sub MOA at 100 yards should be attained with any of today's heavy barreled bolt rifles from the big manufacturers, assuming a decent scope and ammo are used and you have some clue what you are doing. I honestly wouldn't be happy if I bought a bolt rifle today and couldn't get any hand loads to hold 1 MOA at 100 yards.

 

[plinky]

This seems like good time to update the photo of my rifle. Remington 700 SPS Varmint .308. Now it is in a Bell and Carlson Medalist stock. Just glass bedded it. First 3 shots out of it on Wed went into 1/4". Of course I kept shooting till the group was much larger. Checked the throat last night and found that it's receded about .030". I have some longer rounds to shoot next time.



Still sporting the Tasco 6-24X.

Even with the factory stock it shot some 1/2" 5 shot groups and averaged about 3/4" with good handloads. Not bad considering the operator.

 

[Beagle-zebub]

Checked the throat last night and found that it's receded about .030". I have some longer rounds to shoot next time.

Say what?! Is that a normal part of breaking it in?

 

[45B@cav]

I bought a Remington 770 in .308 as a beat around deer season gun. I was pleasantly suprised when I went to the range to zero, it held under 1.25 MOA the whole time. The smallest was .63. I don't know if I just got a good one or what but I don't think it was ever designed to be that accurate and I only paid $342+ tax with a Bushnell sharpshooter scope on it from the factory. It shot best with Winchester 150gr soft point. It was 1.25 with 180gr Winchester soft point. It's not the best ammo but thats all Walmart had in stock and since I bought the rifle there I wasn't going to make two stops that day. Sorry I didn't save my target.

 

[plinky]

Say what?! Is that a normal part of breaking it in?

Well, I'm not sure. It has a few hundred rounds through it now and it probably doesn't take much wear on the rifling to advance the bullet .030"

Then again it occurs to me that the dummy round that I set the seater with was made with a spitzer bullet as opposed to a SMK. I'm not sure I ever checked the throat with a MK. Maybe my rounds have been seated 30 short all along. Tomorrows shooting should be interesting.

 

[PurdueRifleman2008]

I am very interested in the accuracy of .308 rifles. What kind of MoA are you getting at 100 yards? Do you have any pictures of your groupings? Are you a hand-loader or do you use manufacturer ammunition? What extreme ranges have you achieved? What rifle are you firing? Are you shooting with iron sights or with an optic?

I've got a simple 22" pencil barreled Remington 700 ADL with a Millet TRS-1 that averages about 0.65MOA my best is 0.45. Either it or myself cannot seem to keep this accuracy much beyond 10 rounds or so. These groups were shot with Remington Premier 168gr BTHP. Furthest I've taken it to is 500yds.

 

[Redneck with a 40]

Last weekend, I did 1.75" at 200 yards, with Remington 150 grain Core-Lokt ammo, prone with a forend rest. Tomorrow, I'm headin' out to shoot my reloads....remington case, remington large rifle primer, 44 grains of H-4895 and a 150 grain Core-Lokt bullet. I'll let you know how they do.

My rifle is a Remington 700 SPS Tactical, 20" heavy barrel, its sweet.

 

[351 WINCHESTER]

Close enough for government work.

 

[C-grunt]

My Savage 10FP, when I had it would shoot 1.5 moa with any ammo I put in it. With good ammo, its favorite was Winchester Silvertips, it would shoot under .5 moa on a windless day and I was doing my part. Most days I could hold it to .75 moa.

My best handloads would do .75 moa. I never got them as good as the Winchester stuff.

 

[SammyIamToday]

My DPMS 308 SASS has done several sub 1/2 MOA groups with Prvi Partisan ammo. If I ever get around to working a load up for it, I think it will be scary accurate.

I've got pics somewhere, I'll try and dig them up.

 

[maskedman504]

Last weekend, I did 1.75" at 200 yards, with Remington 150 grain Core-Lokt ammo, prone with a forend rest. Tomorrow, I'm headin' out to shoot my reloads....remington case, remington large rifle primer, 44 grains of H-4895 and a 150 grain Core-Lokt bullet. I'll let you know how they do.

My rifle is a Remington 700 SPS Tactical, 20" heavy barrel, its sweet.

1.75 MoA @ 200 is very impressive. Is 'Core-Lokt' a brand of bullets or a typle of bullet?

My Savage 10FP, when I had it would shoot 1.5 moa with any ammo I put in it. With good ammo, its favorite was Winchester Silvertips, it would shoot under .5 moa on a windless day and I was doing my part. Most days I could hold it to .75 moa.

My best handloads would do .75 moa. I never got them as good as the Winchester stuff.

I always read wonderful things about Savage and have never even considered them. I kind of liken it to my love of CZ and my brother who like Sig-Sauer- he would never consider a CZ. In both cases the opinion are baseless. I will check out some Savage rifles.

My DPMS 308 SASS has done several sub 1/2 MOA groups with Prvi Partisan ammo. If I ever get around to working a load up for it, I think it will be scary accurate.

I've got pics somewhere, I'll try and dig them up.

I would be very interested in seeing pictures; not only pictures of the rifle, but also of the groupings. I am trying to steer clear of the AR platform but I have to give it real consideration alongside the G3 platform and the AK platform for my semi-auto .308.



I like to match calibers. I have 2 SKS rifles and an AK so I don't mind bulking on the 7.62. I am going to purchase a bolt action and a semi-auto in .308 for the same reason.

 

[Retro]

Consistently 1.5 MOA, with bedded SOCOM 16, with mil spec NATO ammo. Sub-MOA with Federal Gold Match. Soon to test with Hornady TAP.

See here:

http://www.pbase.com/sdfasdfsdaf/inbox

 

[maskedman504]

Consistently 1.5 MOA, with bedded SOCOM 16, with mil spec NATO ammo. Sub-MOA with Federal Gold Match. Soon to test with Hornady TAP.

I have never been a fan of the SOCOM; however, your rifles is attractive. I am not very familiar with 'bedding' a stock. Did you do it yourself? If I was to purchase a Springfield M1A, it would me the M21 Tactical; I believe the Springfields are out of my price range though. My ceiling is about $1500.

 

[plinky]

I've got a simple 22" pencil barreled Remington 700 ADL with a Millet TRS-1 that averages about 0.65MOA my best is 0.45. Either it or myself cannot seem to keep this accuracy much beyond 10 rounds or so. These groups were shot with Remington Premier 168gr BTHP. Furthest I've taken it to is 500yds.

Nothing wrong with that deer rifle! The shooter is probably OK too.