What to do when it comes to accurate .22lr rifles....

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GregGry

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Hello, I come to the rifle country with a question, that I have a feeling has no answer. Let me explain:

I am in the market for a accurate .22lr rifle. I want to go with a 22lr so I can really work on my marksmanship with rifles, on the cheap (when compared to other calibers). I have made a list of things I really want, they are as follows:

It has to be no more then 400$ (without scope)
It has to be a fullsize rifle with some mass to it
It has to be accurate at 100 yards

I would prefer a laminate stock or synthetic
I would rather have a semi auto then a bolt action, although I am not completely against a bolt
I would prefer a heavy barrel due to balance and feel


This is what I found:

I like the Pistols from CZ (I own 2) and they were at the top of my list when it came to rifles I would look at first. After checking a 22lr rifle of theirs, I felt as though they are setup for smaller people overall. It felt more like a general plinking rifle then a serious peice of equipment. Locally it seems as though I am stuck with normal wood stocks as well, and I don't the look of them. As superficial as it sounds I have been trying to keep my gun collection more on the modern end of things when it comes to looks (aka synthetic, black in color, etc), however I don't do that at the expense of quality or accuracy.

I found a remington 597 tech target at a local Dicks sporting goods for 300$ after 20$ mail in rebate. I love the look of it with the thumbhole stock and silver receiver (The carbon fiber ghosting on the barrel is a bit much) however the thumbhole was a tad bit on the small side for my thumb. I have all the wood working tools in the world, so I figured I could sand out the hole bigger and re-seal the stock, however I didn't take a good enough look at the stock to know if that is a possibility. Any ideas?

This is where things become even more of a challange. Cabela's sent me a gift card deal in the mail where if I spend 500$ (which is what I was hoping to be at with a rifle and scope) I get a gift card activated for 150$ (I didn't see any exceptions for firearms). Even if I spend 400$ I get a 100$ gift card, which would buy other things I might need. So really what I am saying is that my wallet wont be so hurt at cabelas, but the specific 597 tech target I saw at Dicks is a Dicks exclusive (of course my luck). The local cabelas really doesn't have a good selection of 22lr rifles for target use, although they do have a few CZ rifles.

So really my question is, should I just get a cz bolt action rifle and live with the normal wood finish, and the fact its a bolt action, or should I get the remington tech target and have to work out the thumbhole but otherwise its really what I want? Also take this into account:

Cabelas Cz rifle is 330$ and the leupold .22lr scope is 200, making the total 530 plus I get a 150$ gift card. Total cost if you subtract the worth of the giftcard is 380$

Dicks remington tech target 320$ plus a 20$ mail in rebate, and the leupold scope for 160$ (I can get the scope for less due to a single item coupon from cabelas) So the total is 460. Obviously 80$ more then the CZ.

Maybe I need some sense knocked into me. I am curious as to what you fellow rifle country people would do. I thank you in advance for any responses. -Greg
 
I think that in the long run, you will be FAR happier with a CZ 452 or a Marlin 39A for your state purposes, than the Rem 597, in terms of accuracy, and looks/fit/finish.
 
The mossberg model 44us(a) has a bull barrel. Mine was capable of 90/100, with 5-7 in the x ring on an 8in target in my grandfathers hands. With a scope, I don't see why it wouldn't be moa capable. They are less than 400, weigh about 10 lbs, and the only requirement they don't meet of yours is that they are bolt action.
 
My Marlin 60 has served me well as far as accuracy goes. Does not have much mass though, but that makes for an good carrying rifle.
 
Greg:

Great post! Thanks for another 22 post! I always enjoy the .22LR posts, and this one especially because it meets my criteria for a 22: it must be accurate to 100 yards. :D Your price is too low for a CMP Kimber Gov't model 82. Those sell for $600.00 and are tack-drivers...literally.

The single rifle that felt like a centerfire was the Marlin 39A, with its steel receiver and 24" barrel. It is an adult frame long gun. The Marlin 981T also is an adult frame long gun, but the barrel is around 21". My friend has a Marlin 39A, and I have fired hundreds of rounds through it. It is accurate at distance, and wow...talk about balance!!

Here are two 22s that you didn't mention, and these come with accuracy gaurantees: TC Contender and TC Encore. Both are available in .22LR. The Contender with a MATCH chamber and is a tack-driver as well. In closing, you may also want to look at the Savage Mark II. They make a HB model with laminated stock for $299.00 in my area.

Best of luck and post some pictures of your choice.

Doc2005
 
Greg, I really like my Ruger 10/22 Target rifle,I think I paid 350 or 375 for it a couple yrs ago and it is very accurate. I just put a BSA Sweet 22 scope on it and a bipod and other than that it is box stock. The stock trigger could use some changes but it's ok for now. I know that a good bolt action will be more accurate though,the CZ's are hard to beat for accuracy. With good ammo I can shoot 5 shot groups at 75 & 100 yrds between .500"-1" with the Ruger, and I'm just an average shooter. I'm pleased if I can get a decent group with any gun. The pics are from 75yrds with a 10-15 mph wind/crosswind.
 

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Doc2005, the remington tech target I was looking at has an identical stock to the savage mark 2 with the laminated stock, minus the color. Makes me wonder who really makes the stock or even the firearms?

Have any of you guys used scopes in the 100 to 120$ range with the .22lr rifles? I realize even at 100 yards the ballistics of the 22lr round aren't good. I really want a scoped .22lr because I need to work on 75 to 100 yard targets to really get my general scoped rifle shooting better. I have a ar-15 that I can shoot well with iron sights, but it costs way more then .22lr to shoot, and I figured I would go out and get a .22 lr rifle rather then getting a diffrent upper for the ar 15.

I think I am going to have to go back to cabelas and really go over the CZ rifle since that is probably the way to go for me. My friends would probably make fun of me over the remington tech target since its a little bit "pointlessly flashy".

EDIT: Also, what is the diffrence between scopes that claim to be for rimfires, and just a plain rifle scope?
 
+1 cz452zkm (military trainer w/ irons)... I love mine

If you want to work on you AR skills, consider a DPMS 22lr upper for your AR-15. I saw one for $535, but I haven't shopped for bargains yet. wt. and dimensions are the same as your AR.

+1 Ruger 10/22($159) add .920 barrel & stock($159), match trigger(Volquartson$30) and scope(Bushnell banner on sale$89)... You'll clean the silouhette matches.(out to 125m)

rimfire scopes tend to be smaller tubes... stick to full 1" tube scope. you don't need alot of power, but look for clarity across your range usage (10m - 125m) adjustabe objective a bonus.

good luck!
 
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I would rather have a semi auto then a bolt action, although I am not completely against a bolt
Not going to work, If you want truly accurate rifles a blowback is not gonna work, and yes, I know how accurate some are.

For what you wan't Try to find a used Anschutz, Marlin T4000, Savage MKII, CZ 452/453, Ruger 77/22 and buy a Green Mountain, Lilja, or Shillen barrel.

I would go with the CZ or savage out of box, give them a bedding job and have them match chambered and crowned. If you wan't something that will shoot good but can upgrade easily, go with the Ruger 77/22.
 
Another vote for the CZ .22's. Day in and day out the CZ 452 and 453 rifles are very hard to beat.

If you decide you have to have a semi-auto TC makes a very nice one.

M'bogo
 
Just remember what ever .22 you have buy several boxes of different brands and see which one shoots most accurate.buy different ones every time you go shooting till you find the one thats best for your gun.then buy only that one.unless your just buying for playing around but then you may have another gun for that.
 
There are lots of very accurate .22 LR rifles out there, some can be purchased and made quite accurate for about $600 total.

If you like semi-autos, I'd start with either a Ruger 10-22T or perhaps a TC Semi. If you're handy with tools, you can make your Ruger as accurate as you need and do it over time. There are all kinds of accurizing tips on Rimfirecentral.com Tips and Tricks Forum...even some that I wrote.

The basics include tips as to which low-cost barrels to buy (if yours doesn't shoot well), bedding tricks and other metalwork tips.

Semi-autos can be made to shoot accurately for maybe 75 rounds between cleanings. The blow-back action causes loss of extreme accuracy, but they are still good for informal target shooting well over 200 rounds between cleanings.

Probably the nicest, very accurate .22lr for the money right now is the bolt-action Weatherby/Anschutz 64 combination. The rifle is not only beautiful, but shoots great. Price is a few hundred more than what you want to spend, however.

The next best is the CZ 452 American. It's a bit rougher in finish, but a solid value.

Picher
 
marlin used to build a biathlon rifle,called the 2000l. i don't know what it was b ased on,or how much it cost,but it worked good.

izmash biathlon basic gets good reviews too.
 
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