What type of vault door do YOU recommend?

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We're having an addition built onto our house, and it includes an 8 x 10 walk-in closet... with cinderblock and rebar walls and ceiling. We figure it will make a useful tornado shelter and gun vault.

Question: What sort of vault door would you recommend? It seems to me we want a good, reliable mechanical combination lock, maybe with a key for fast entry. Does anyone have any thoughts or experience to the contrary?

Anyone want to recommend a specific brand/model?

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First, the primary reason is shelter and access. Use a FEMA rated shelter door. Avoid residential grade features as much as possible.

More than that will be above and beyond the strength of the concrete block and it would be easier to penetrate the walls to get in. Balance the construction features of the walls to the door because going overboard will be overspending and only direct the attention of the experienced to the weaker materials.

The construction should be evaluated in terms of minutes of resistance - a determined attack by nature or a thief is basically a matter of time. As we learned in the EF5, 250 mph winds will basically throw cars into construction. If it's not reinforced poured concrete anchored to the foundation with it's own structural integrity separate from any roofing it will fail. All the tilt up commercial buildings came down when the roofs blew off.

That's why a door of much more resistance is a waste of time - a wall breach is often easier. Place a gun safe anchored inside that room and use the rest of it to store recovery essentials like water, food, hard use clothing, and extraction tools. Dedicate them to that purpose, don't take things out of there as they will be when you need them.

Be careful how the addition is tied into the existing construction as the demolition of the other parts of the house can't be allowed to drag down the vault room. And consider carefully how flooding my affect things - I live on a hill, yet the basement has had three inches of water in it due to the builder not properly pouring the foundation. When the table rises it penetrates the joint at floor level and pours in. Plan for a 100 year flood event, it's the amount of rainfall in 12 hours that will flood you at your site, your specific drainage is the source of most flooding. I have a creek 25 feet lower than the house 100 feet behind it and that isn't my problem.
 
The ideal situation would be to visit a stocking dealer with a showroom. Here in Cleveland, Ohio we have Cleveland Safe Company with a nice showroom. Would be nice if you could find something local to yourself.

While I like Amsec safes and vault doors There are no shortage of others as in the link provided by Tirod. We also have a forum member CB900F who is very well versed in these things and hopefully he will chime in.

You need to consider size, weight and a vault door that will fit your needs with the features you want and need.

Ron
 
Moved to firearm accessories where the safe and vault gurus usually hang out.
 
Your vault sounds a lot like the one I designed into my new home. I bit the bullet and bought a Browning door. Pricy but a real quality piece. When properly installed it is a thing of beauty. I would rather have a combination lock than the keypad but I can live with it. Always keep a fresh 9v battery available. I leave the door unlatched while at home since it is also my safe room/storm shelter.
 
Something like this? Took this photo from www.zykansafe.com

I'm sure Frank (a1abdj) can give you some good advice regarding safe room doors. Of course his first question is budget. :)

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I would get one of these from him if I could. I just love these antique bank vault doors and they are a thing of beauty when restored.
 

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I have a safe room in my house and the door is steel with heavy hinges and three deadbolts. But while the middle deadbolt has a key cylinder, the other two can only be thrown from inside. But I'm sure a skilled locksmith could change that if desired.
 
I'd think twice before I put an out swinging Vault door on a storm shelter. You want a door that opens inward so you will be able to clear debris and get out after the storm. In your case I'd go for heavy steel passage door and a couple gunsafes inside.
 
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