So if you were to sell off an AR15 and end up with around $750-$800 and you know there is a 33% chance you will end up moving to California in the near future would you buy an M1 Garand and some dies with the change, if there is any, or would you go to S.O.G. and buy maybe 3 different C&R rifles? There are a few voids in my collection like a good 8mm Mauser rifle, maybe an Enfield, and I am sure I could come up with something else..or dies to load for those two...lol. I also need a 1911 GI 5 inch barrel to go with the 400 Cor Bon barrel, dies, and brass I picked up in a trade but that would probably leave me breaking even too. I am not "investment" minded when it comes to firearms, they were made to be shot dagnabbit...lol. What do you guys think? Sadly I have wanted an AR15 as long as I can remember and now that I have had one for a little while I am not overly thrilled with it, especially compared to more stout platforms and C&R rifles.
What would you do?
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I would work on not having to move to Californica.
ReloaderFred
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Grew up there, moved away when I retired, and won't go back............
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MaterDei
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Do what you can to make the 67% chance you won't move to California, 100%. That is the best way to spend the money, you won't regret it.
armoredman
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I concur. Cali may offer a great paycheck in some fields, but the cost of living and communist laws disarming the people ensure I will never ever ever live there again.
Quiet
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You think the cost of living in California isn't going to be high? It's going to be real high! Maybeso not in dollars, but it's going to be real high. I would simply tell whoever is trying to get you to California to simply put that idea where the sun don't shine; discussion over! And an AR15 doesn't have anything to do with it! That's one of the last things that I personnally want, but no way could I handle the real cost of living in California. You need to do some serious soul searching.
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DoubleTapDrew
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Maybe he's in the military and getting stationed there (free cost of living).
Are M1A's ok there? The garand is cool but limiting it to 8 rounds...oh wait, Kali. Yeah get a garand. Just don't get one of those bastardized Kali legal ARs.
Are M1A's ok there? The garand is cool but limiting it to 8 rounds...oh wait, Kali. Yeah get a garand. Just don't get one of those bastardized Kali legal ARs.
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Well, I guess thats what happens when you ask "What would you do?" on a gun forum. 
Well let see where I grew up in Ca was either surrounded by orange groves or we had a trout stream almost in the back yard and deer you could see from the window. Both homes can be seen on Goggle earth but the area around them or at least one is unrecognizable. One is mostly roof tops, the other has no stream now and I doubt any deer either.
MOVE, no matter the cost it will be worth it, or it has been for me. Life is far to short to put up with that place for a multitude or reasons among them are too much, people, bad air, rules and laws, for my taste.
There is a lot I kinda miss, some of that is gone, some not the same, some is there still, but would never go back to live.
I checked out of Hotel California and really did leave decades ago.
MOVE, no matter the cost it will be worth it, or it has been for me. Life is far to short to put up with that place for a multitude or reasons among them are too much, people, bad air, rules and laws, for my taste.
There is a lot I kinda miss, some of that is gone, some not the same, some is there still, but would never go back to live.
I checked out of Hotel California and really did leave decades ago.
Do whatever it takes to stay out of California, whatever is drawing you there isn't worth it. Unfortunately I was born/grew up there. Nothing in this world I can think of could get me to go back.
As for your money. Use it to stay out of KA if need be. After that, a CMP Garand would be a good choice and/or high-capacity magazines for your favorite bottom feeder. Another stripped AR receiver as you might like to have another one after the next ban comes.
If you're smart though, you'll be looking into the stock market or real estate.
As for your money. Use it to stay out of KA if need be. After that, a CMP Garand would be a good choice and/or high-capacity magazines for your favorite bottom feeder. Another stripped AR receiver as you might like to have another one after the next ban comes.
If you're smart though, you'll be looking into the stock market or real estate.
I am from San Diego. I have a family of near 40 living there. I have been unexpectedly retired from the Navy recently and we have eaten through our savings trying to stay out of California. I have even started substitute teaching but I can't for the life of me find a job in my field of expertise right now. I would NEVER bastardize an AR to make it Kali legal. To top it off I have a Yugo SKS, a Saiga, and a P229....all of which would also have to go. Life really sucks sometimes but we all know that sometimes real decisions and real sacrifices need to be made, especially for our families. I am not willing to put my toys over the wellbeing of my family, as AGONIZING as it may be. I know Kali has its issues but we all miss San Diego very much and it would be an exceptional option for us...no rent, no utilities, a chance to get on our feet. We can always leave the state after that.
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No rent, no utilities - but also no future. If the econ sit is bad across the U.S., its extra bad here. I say get both financial aid and a Stafford loan to pay for living expenses and tuition (once you get the check, they don't know what you do with the money, no auditing) while you get an emergency teaching permit and work through the coursework nights/weekends. Teaching Spanish ain't that bad, especially if you are in an area of increasing student enrollments. Nearly all districts in CA are under a spending/hiring freeze right now, many have already given initial layoff notices to up to 25% of their certificated/classified workforce in case Terminator's budget becomes reality. Lower & middle class families are leaving because employment opportunities are down, housing costs have skyrocketed, way more than most parts of the country. Lastly, deisel fuel just hit a national high here in So Ca, which affects almost ALL industries and businesses (okay, legal & accounting services are spared, but groceries, mass transit, retail products, manufact)
So while you may have temporary relief available here, and the comfort of friends/family, there is no long term solution to be found here, and makes it more difficult to get to where you want to end up, career and location wise. As bad as it seems, I think your options are still better in most places outside of Ca for the foreseeable future. Oh, one more doom/gloom statement - the fields which the state was pushing people into the last two decades, high tech & engineering & finance, are found to be the most vulnerable for foreign outsourcing, now that the 'net is so efficient, and those jobs are not coming back. Good luck. The gun stuff can wait until after any possible move.
So while you may have temporary relief available here, and the comfort of friends/family, there is no long term solution to be found here, and makes it more difficult to get to where you want to end up, career and location wise. As bad as it seems, I think your options are still better in most places outside of Ca for the foreseeable future. Oh, one more doom/gloom statement - the fields which the state was pushing people into the last two decades, high tech & engineering & finance, are found to be the most vulnerable for foreign outsourcing, now that the 'net is so efficient, and those jobs are not coming back. Good luck. The gun stuff can wait until after any possible move.
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We're hiring, right next door, enough money to live on, state bennies, once you get past probation, it is very hard to get fired. Job is really not difficult at all, if more people knew how little we actually work, (anywhere other than lockdown), we'd have to beat 'em off with a stick. Job comes with auto CCW, as well.
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fearless leader
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News Flash: In case you haven't been keeping up, China has been massing a large military build up to include intercontinental ballistic missiles that can reach the leftist coast (courtesy of the Clinton Administration).
In the wake of an uncertain political climate, tensions with the ChiComs being strained to almost Cold War levels, I would avoid the leftist cost like they grew Bubonic Plague there.
Come see us in the Gunshine State of Florida. You can own what you bloody like, as long as it complies with NFA.
In the wake of an uncertain political climate, tensions with the ChiComs being strained to almost Cold War levels, I would avoid the leftist cost like they grew Bubonic Plague there.
Come see us in the Gunshine State of Florida. You can own what you bloody like, as long as it complies with NFA.
wally
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Only way I'd take a job in California would be if they paid me enough to commute from Arizona or Nevada.
--wally.
--wally.
Virginian
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Well, before they legalized concealed carry, i said I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6. I haven't changed my mind.
I don't think you want a prison guard in a wheel chair..lol. Yeah, our military dollars didn't go to far in San Diego but there are a lot of intangibles that we loved that go along with San Diego. My kinda jobs are all focused in the D.C, Maryland, and Virginia area but there aren't that many open right now and competition is fierce. I have never seen it so bad. All of my career people got out and walked right into a civilian job in the same field the next day but I must have picked the worst time in history to get forced out. Seriously, going home is number three on my list of three options but it is there and a possible reality I have to prepare to accept. I'm just looking at options/taking suggestions on how to prepare for it firearms-wise.
Quiet
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You can keep your AR15, Yugo SKS, Saiga and P229. You just have to make them CA compliant.
But, since you don't want to "bastardize" them. Sell the rifles, sell your large capacity magazines and keep the P229 & get 10 round magazines for it.
If you want to capitalize on your move to CA, buy a bunch of non-CA approved handguns and bring them with you when you move. Once you move to CA, you can legally sell them in CA and most non-CA approved handguns sell for twice what they are worth outside of CA. For example... Kel-Tec P-32 sells for $500 & H&K HK-45 sells for $2000.
I thought the P229 was illegal because of the night sights? Is it just the mags? Can you keep that one if you don't have high caps? The Saiga I don't give a rats rear end about losing. It is a good, fun rifle but whatever, there are other ones I want and have that I enjoy much more. The Yugo...I refuse to modify C&R rifles, I don't do any restoration work on them either. I guess I am kind of a purist in that regard. I don't know if my Mosin Nagant with fixed bayonet is legal in California. The AR, I just couldn't bring myself to weld a 10rd mag into it and ruin a lower. Not to mention what a pain in the butt it would be to load it. I would think that it would eventually cause seriously premature wear on the rear pin hole opening and closing it that often...unless that law has changed and you can use a detachable 10rd magazine, which I prefer anyway for bench shooting.
How can you bring in non-CA approved handguns? wouldn't that be illegal? or are you being sarcastic and implying selling them on the black market and I am missing it?
How can you bring in non-CA approved handguns? wouldn't that be illegal? or are you being sarcastic and implying selling them on the black market and I am missing it?
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Keep the AR stored out of state. Buy the M-1 anyway (IF you know you would like shooting it). Ammo is a steal for it right now. What it does, round for round, eliminates the need to practice 'double tapping'.
A Cali-legal sks might be good, too--but the $$$ is going up.
A Cali-legal sks might be good, too--but the $$$ is going up.
What's a CA Legal AR15?
Is it one with: All internal parts removed?
Must be constructed from all plastic and capable of firing
Nerf rounds at less than 50 fps?
Full auto/semiauto/selector switch complete with suppressor
and scope, but MUST be in jpeg. or MP3 format, meaning it be
full auto OR semiauto, but MUST be only a PICTURE?
Just the letters "AR", and numbers "15" itself?
I am confused here.
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