Savage 99, ruger 77, rummy 788, all shoot better than my per-64 70, my post 64 70, and with less powder, recoil, and fuss. I love the 308 which violates all the rules I was taught as a neophyte.....short neck, bad. 788, poor design. 99 savage, 2 pc stock bad. BS. Try 'em all, find what works and enjoy em.