Valkman
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I love my 1911's - and I love and shoot just well with my XD45's. Love both kinds. If I were going into a muddy wet nasty enviroment it'd be the XD I take with me.
I've been convinced through slow, inexorable, piling up of evidence at every match I attend, that they are the "bestest for the mostest" and the old steel and hammer guns really just don't keep up, no matter how much soul they have or how beautiful they are.
I know a lot of people regularly decry polymer framed and or striker fired guns. Why?
Well, an element of humor was included but, from what I've observed many folks decide if a gun is balanced by handling it at a gun counter. Polymer guns under those circumstances do tend to feel top-heavy (really they are bottom-light), the slide and barrel are still obviously made of steel and weigh more or less the same as a comparable steel gun.Are you two making assumptions or trying to be funny.
I have had the MP9c with the 12 rnd mags for 4 yrs and is my primary. Ive also had a BHP since 94.
As compared to a metal framed gun.... polymer guns are more top heavy.
I haven't found the NAA locally yet or I would buy it.If you dislike polymer so much why wouldn't you buy an NAA Guardian instead of the LCP?
There are still quite a few all metal handguns available for $500 or less. Your belief that plastic frames are a rip off is completely unfounded though. If your fellow gun owners are as gullible as you think they are, then they're in the vast majority. Do you really think the American gun buying market is that foolish?
Ah, so there is a place for polymer guns.
The facts contradict your opinion. MSRP on the Glock 17 was $595 in 1993, which is $964 now when adjusted for inflation. Yet, MSRP on the Glock 17 has only risen to $620. Market pressure has kept the S&W SD VE series (the current evolution of the Sigma) at $320 street price. Despite overall US market inflation inflation and the recent firearms demand spike, that's essentially the same as the Sigma's 1998 street price of $300. Having working in firearms retail I can also tell you that there's very little profit in the guns themselves. If you want to make money in the gun industry sell ammo and accessories. Having also worked in big box retail I can tell you that even ammo and gun accessory margins are a joke compared to shoes and clothes. The US consumer market has massive leverage on gun prices.Gullible in the sense that today's gun buyer seems all to willing to pay what the gun manufacturer wants, I don't believe we have the pricing pressure on the gun market (from the buyer) as we used to.
If the expansion of concealed carry is a fad it's a nearly 20 year old one.I believe the growth in the plastic gun demand is a direct result in the growth in the CC movement, is this a lasting move or a fad ? time will tell.
That really shows an ignorance of plastics on your part. There are Glock pistols from the early 80s that are still completely serviceable. There are countless M16 and AR-15 butt stocks and hand guards from the 70s and earlier that are still in service. Comparing a plastic gun frame from a major manufacturer to a disposable ink pen is the same as comparing a metal gun frame to a piece of aluminum foil. They're both metal, but that's where the similarities end.I use a BIC but with the understanding that I'll throw it away when it's used up, I view the LCP the same way.
Polymers are being used extensively in the most expensive cars because it is lighter and just performs better in certain areas of a car than metal.I'm cool with polymer but they will always be "economy cars" to me...cheap and effective and when the round count gets too high we'll pitch 'em in the trash and buy another plastic pistol.
That really shows an ignorance of plastics on your part.
If the expansion of concealed carry is a fad it's a nearly 20 year old one.
Polymers are being used extensively in the most expensive cars because it is lighter and just performs better in certain areas of a car than metal.
Personally I prefer black hair.Agreed. That's why I added the "for me..." context. I'm a lover of both types and voted that way. I prefer all steel but that's just like preferring red headed women.
for me, red headed women are the hottest.
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