What's wrong with the SR1911?

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I shot mine again the last few days.

I found about 1,500 230 grain LRN reloads I forgot I had, so I figure this will be a good load for the SR1911. It is.


About this time after I buy a new gun I start deciding if I like the gun or not.
I like it.:)
 
What's wrong with it for me is that it's a Ruger Auto. I'll buy their revolvers, their bolt actions, their single shots. I won't buy their autos. If they had any pumps I liked I'd consider them. Not autos. Yes, it's a hold over from Bill. I won't try to convince anyone else to accept, understand, or embrace my belief. I don't speak out against Ruger (any longer.) I don't judge in the least anyone who does choose to buy Rugers. Everyone is free to make their own choices and I'll allow them that freedom for whatever their reasons are. I hope others extend me the same courtesy (though I don't lose sleep over those who don't.)

Apart from my admittedly irrational stiff-neckedness, I'm not impressed with Ruger's autos. Apart from the .22s, I have yet to hold a Ruger auto handgun that was what I consider to be high quality. They're a bargain basement gun, which is fine, but I usually don't shop in the generic section when I'm shopping for guns. I'll wait a few more paychecks if I have to and get a Glock or a Springfield, both much better guns, in my opinion. I haven't held one of their 1911 offerings, but their other autos don't lead me to believe I'd like it nearly as well as my Springfield. Either of my Springfields, actually.

My complaints about their quality does not extend to their auto rifles as much. The Minis all seem to be as good as most of the AKs I handle, which means they're seviceable enough to be acceptable. They're not up to most of the AR manufacturers, but they're good enough that I won't slight their quality. The 10/22s speak VOLUMES all by themselves. I do have a 10/22 which I bought long before the AWB was even a consideration.

My exception to the above handgun rant is the 22/45 I have which I purchased not from Ruger, but from AWC Systems, a company that makes suppressors. My 22/45 came with an integral suppressor barrel. It's nice to have a handgun that you can hear the firing pin and action slide louder than the report of the shot. It's not just quiet, it's really quiet.
 
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cskny said:
I'm surprised no one has commented on this guys accuracy test. Isn't Kimber's Super Match accuracy guarantee 1" at 25 yards?
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Mr.Revolverguy posts here and people commented when he orginally posted a link to his blog about his Ruger accuracy test. As people pointed out the real accuracy test of a 1911 out or a mechanical rest like a Ransom Rest is 50 yards not 25. A production 1911 should be able to hold at least a 1.5" group at 25 yards. Which means roughly it will shoot 3" give or take a bit at 50 yards out of the same rest.

This is why people pay additional $$$ for 1.5" @ 50 yards from Les Baer, Wilson and others.
 
rellascout said:
Mr.Revolverguy posts here and people commented when he orginally posted a link to his blog about his Ruger accuracy test. As people pointed out the real accuracy test of a 1911 out or a mechanical rest like a Ransom Rest is 50 yards not 25. A production 1911 should be able to hold at least a 1.5" group at 25 yards. Which means roughly it will shoot 3" give or take a bit at 50 yards out of the same rest.

This is why people pay additional $$$ for 1.5" @ 50 yards from Les Baer, Wilson and others.
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Thanks for the info.

That's not exactly what I meant though. I was surprised because I was reading another bench rest 1911 comparison thread with some big production names and models who also did 25 yards (and of course, now I can't find the link or I would post it). Many, for a lot more $, did surprisingly worse.
 
That's not exactly what I meant though. I was surprised because I was reading another bench rest 1911 comparison thread with some big production names and models who also did 25 yards (and of course, now I can't find the link or I would post it). Many, for a lot more $, did surprisingly worse.
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I assume that you are referring to the shootout done by Severns Customs. IIRC it was posted on the M1911.org or the 1911forum.com a while back.

Colt and Ed Brown did not do well IIRC. The DW did well and again IIRC the winner was the Severns Custom tweaked DW which IMHO puts a little bit of a spin on the entire contest. ;)

Not that I do not believe the results but I to have to take them with a grain of salt.
 
rellascout said:
I assume that you are referring to the shootout done by Severns Customs. IIRC it was posted on the M1911.org or the 1911forum.com a while back.

Colt and Ed Brown did not do well IIRC. The DW did well and again IIRC the winner was the Severns Custom tweaked DW which IMHO puts a little bit of a spin on the entire contest. ;)

Not that I do not believe the results but I to have to take them with a grain of salt.
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That could have been one. There have been a couple floating around about different 1911's. I was genuinely surprised at how well it did in comparison, that's all.
 
I understand the confusion, I got carried away talking about more Ruger handguns than just their 1911. The LC9 and the P95 can be found for $300-$350 on Gun Broker. A Glock seems to be going for at least $100 more than that.

I brought up the various Ruger autos because I've had experience with them, and I haven't with the SR1911. The Ruger 9mm guns I've held and shot didn't impress me with their feel. My cousin who owns one disagrees with me, but I was giving my opinion, not his. I also said that while I hadn't held a Ruger 1911, my disappointment with their 9s I've held makes me worry about whether or not I'd like the SR1911. It was just an expression of an expected results based on their products so far.

The quality of many of their guns I find to be superb. I currently possess 9 rifles (some of my guns are in my cousin's walk in safe in another state as I'm kind of doing the teaching equivalent of TDY) and 4 of these are Rugers. Very pleased with all of them. I also said I was not including their .22 handguns in my rant. I did fail to completely explain that I think these are superb quality firearms, though I did say I owned one. So of all the Ruger products I've handled, the only ones I've found to be disappointing are their centerfire auto handguns. Maybe they'll turn out to be great. Maybe not. I just said based on my experience with Ruger pistols I'm not expecting much.

I don't see where I've contradicted myself. I'm at odds with others' beliefs, but that's one of the things to look for on this site: Differences of opinion to compare and contrast. Like I said, I won't try to convince you my opinion is any more "right" than yours is. As the old saying goes, opinions are like butts; everybody's got one and many people think yours stinks.
 
I have no problem with your opinion. As you said, it is yours, and you're welcome to it. The connection you've made between your experience, your opinion, and the topic at hand is where I see the weak link...and you've mentioned that as well....afterall, we are talking about a gun that you haven't touched, fired or had any other experience with...so your opinion, just like mine, is subjective.

Every company has produced a few duds, and I hoping against hope that the Ruger I ordered isn't one (which may be why I'm questioning your post).
 
Shot mine again today.
I think I would like the trigger about a pound lighter.



OK, now I'm getting a little nit picky.:D
 
Well Ruger has shown they can make very good guns. My big game gun I took to Alaska is an M77 Mk II stainless with a brown laminate stock in .338 wearing a Leupold 4-12. It's one of the smoothest and best handling rifles I've used, and with a Barnes muzzle brake on the end it kicks noticeably less that the 30.06 I traded in for it. My All Weather 77/22 Mag is a piece of real craftsmanship. Like I said, the 10/22 is in a class all its own, but it's a fairly simple thing. The 1911 is a little more complex. More things need to be close tolerance. I would hope that their 1911 has the engineering competence that some of their better successes have had, not like the centerfire handguns of their I've used. They have shown as a company that they can succeed. They can also fail. Hell, ever Ford had the Edsel in their lineup. It can and does happen to most companies. Let's hope Ruger learned enough of the important lessons.

I'd say this is a paramount point for Ruger, they need to make the SR1911 a quality piece, not a Grendel of .45 Autos. Taurus can get away with shaky quality control and poor at best customer service because they're a low end manufacturer that puts out some middle class guns. This isn't really meant as a swipe at Taurus, being based in Brazil leads to benefits and probelms, their spotty service is tolerated because of their low prices. When they put out a quality piece it holds its own very well against the competition, it's just that they seem to have a problem putting out consisten quality. Americans have come to expect high middle to top quality from Ruger, and if they put out a 1911 that has too many rough edges it will really be a shame.

Doesn't matter to me, really, because I won't buy one. I have an interest in how the company does, though. I wish them well, so they can continue to provide some very good guns to us. My Super Redhawk .454 and my GP100 need more Prescott brothers and sisters.
 
I shot mine the other day, true minute of beer can gun for me. I paid 740 for it. Sure that might be a little high but I'm happy with it. I've owned springfields and others, its a good pistol. Most people that complain don't own one or have a pot to p in. I've noticed that a lot on these forums, they heard from a guy that heard it jammed one time after not cleaning in 2k rounds blah blah blah get a life and more importantly get a job!
 
What am I missing with the Ruger SR1911? What’s wrong with it?
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Problem #1: Hex head grip screws.

They did pretty good on the rest of it though. No front cocking serrations or schwartz safety, it already has the correct guide rod, the integral plunger tube wont come loose, and the LoMount rear has plenty of sight options.

Would I be correct in assuming front sight in a Novak dovetail? If not, it wouldn't be a big issue as long as front night sights in varying heights are available. Grip screws aren't really an issue, they're cheap, and I have a few spare sets next to my short guide rod and plug, along with Kimber rubber grips. You know, in case another 1911 follows me home from the pound.

I understand, there might be a wait because supply is not matching demand, but…
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Which brings us to problem #2. I still haven't actually had my hands on one. But that's probably a good thing, since I cant afford one right now...
 
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