Where do you keep a spare mag?

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Dont know if this is correct or not, as I have no source, but my CCW instructor said the FBI statistics on gunfights show that the average is 3 shots, 3 feet, 3 seconds.
 
I keep my spare mags on my belt.

Dont know if this is correct or not, as I have no source, but my CCW instructor said the FBI statistics on gunfights show that the average is 3 shots, 3 feet, 3 seconds.

Average gun engagement is at 7 yards. There are no averages for shots or seconds. But anyway, I don`t base my life on averages and I`d hate to know that I had a thousand rounds at home or 2 mags. in my car when I`m involved in a gunfight that takes more than 3 rounds and lasts longer than 3 seconds, wouldn`t you. Besides, when it comes to my life or my families lives I can never be to safe and couldn`t care less about any average including the one that I`ve added.
 
If you believe that is all you could experience, then pack accordingly.

It cost me nothing to have 2 or 3 extra mags on me, what will it cost you if you have none?
 
I carry two 16 round mags in the supplied duel holster from Springfield between my legs(im in a wheelchair)reedy to put 48 rounds in someone in a jiff
who ever robs that quickie stop when im getting my morning coffee is in for a hoot!!
 
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There are no averages for shots or seconds.

This could not be further from the truth. I know first hand that the NYCPD Firearms and Tactics Unit interviews every officer who fires his or her weapon. Data on shots fired, distance and approximate amount of time of the engagement, are recorded and comprised as statistical data with all other shooting events by other officers.
 
Front left pocket for my 1911 mag. If you have a thicker mag and often where a jacket, I've heard one in each front jacket pocket is a good place, plus it helps keep the jacket down in wind so your gun isn't exposed.
 
This could not be further from the truth. I know first hand that the NYCPD Firearms and Tactics Unit interviews every officer who fires his or her weapon. Data on shots fired, distance and approximate amount of time of the engagement, are recorded and comprised as statistical data with all other shooting events by other officers.


Laughing so hard my belly hurts. NYC 3 officers drop 18 rds a piece on 1 unarmed guy thats 54 rds and I think they reloaded. I think their stats will be a little cooked!
 
chipperi writes:

Laughing so hard my belly hurts. NYC 3 officers drop 18 rds a piece on 1 unarmed guy thats 54 rds and I think they reloaded. I think their stats will be a little cooked!

If it's the same incident I'm thinking of, a gun was found and one of the culprits tried to run the officer down with a van. Kindly document your statement with facts, many shootings take place in the city and it's five boroughs. With 35,000 police officers, the shootings are frequent. In my precinct (lower manhattan) a shooting a day was not unusual. I recall 6 one night on an 8 hour tour of duty just in my precinct alone. There are 123 Precincts each having a few hunderd men not to mention special divisions and units. **** happens. When I turned out the troops for their tour of duty, I always reminded them that it's better to be tried by 12 then carried by 6 and that their job was to go home to their families after each tour and not wind up on a slab in the morgue because of some $cum bag. God Bless the NYCPD and it's members.
 
Kindly document your statement with facts, many shootings take place in the city and it's five boroughs.

Even the mayor admits they over did it. see link below.
I have no beef with the NYPD but they always make the news. For instance during their transition to Glocks they had a bunch of NDs due to not keeping their finger out of the trigger guard. They tried to blame it on Glocks, so Glock iinstalled a heavier trigger and called it the NY style trigger. If it takes 50 rounds to drop 1 unarmed guy, I would say remedial firearms is called for. Sounds like the use of force was justified...but 50 rounds?

http://www.nypost.com/seven/11282006/news/regionalnews/mike_takes_a_shot_at_cops_regionalnews_david_seifman__murray_weiss_and_leonard_greene.htm
 
chipperi

Sounds like the use of force was justified...but 50 rounds?

Just a little barrell break in going on, and getting those triggers a little looser.

Like I said in my previous post, **** happens. After 20 years on the force I can attest to that. Come on up and sign a waiver, go on patrol in some of the zoo's for just one night, you'll understand, if your not eaten alive.
Tough job up here, always on edge. By the way, we train the new people to shoot to stop. Perhaps the 9mm's aren't potent enough to stop fast enough?:) Ü

By the way, the New York Post is a rag.
 
I was at the range one day and the guy a couple down had his trigger stick apparently and it went in to full auto.
maybe that's what happened to all of the officers
good excuse to me
 
I keep my spare mag at home
I carry 7 rounds in the 1911
5 rounds in the S@W chief
I always count on the first bullet no need to carry or think about the second round:First shot is the one that most important the rest just add extra weight to carry
 
I would think in panic situation your not going to say wait a minute let me aim hold still.if you miss,it don't take them down,there's more than one,what would you do.if there doped up and don't feel pain you would have to empty your mag on them.I like the insurance I've got more than them.coming from someone that lost use of his legs from a motorcycle accident I can vouch that unexpected s#!t happens!
 
I would have to agree with your statement. In the heat of the moment, you can only HOPE that you will keeps your wits about you. Things happen fast, very fast, and it's usually the first shooter who wins, providing he has good shot placement. I've had the unfortunate experience more than once in my 20 years with law enforcement. Remember, it's usually the bad guy who has his weapon ready to use because he already knows what he's going to do. We on the other hand are at the disadvantage because we have to react to the bad guys actions. In other words, he has the jump on us. That of course may not always be the case, but most are. Training is helpful but that does not insure a successful outcome for you. I don't know who originally said it, but much of what happens is due to the "Luck of the draw". The are many more variables that come into play during an exchange of gun fire, but I don't want to write a book. I think you get my point. I just hope that none of you have the experience of finding out.
 
Remember, it's usually the bad guy who has his weapon ready to use because he already knows what he's going to do. We on the other hand are at the disadvantage because we have to react to the bad guys actions. In other words, he has the jump on us.

this is why I carry open
1if he see my weapon hopefully he will move on and
2 for ease of access the quicker you can draw the better chances you have.
 
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this is why I carry open
1if he see my weapon hopefully he will move on and
2 for ease of access the quicker you can draw the better chances you have.

I see your point, but it's both good and bad. If I SEE your weapon, I will simply act normal, get behind you, and BAM! On the other hand, a reluctant bad guy might move on, or wait for a better opportunity. A truly hardened criminal will just walk right up to you, and part your head like a watermelon. It boils down to luck, fate, chance, time, situation and circumstances. There are no fail safes. I've investigated the weirdest things that movie directors haven't come up with yet.
 
completely understandable I have thought of that but I still like my quick and easy access,and for me being in a wheelchair its not likely someone sneaking up behind me at wally world,my normal pace in a parking lot is about a slow run for average joe blow
 
Best thing for a glock mag (or any thick mag) is a Gerber knife holster. no one questions it. wear it on the opposite side of your gun arm and practice with it. if you ever need a second mag you'll need it fast. and you better already have an exit planned.
 
Why would they question it? It's hidden under teh same cover garment hidding your gun on the other side of your waist ain't it?

Why not use a regular mag holder without the flap?

What am I not seeing in this picture?
 
I usually carry a spare mag on the off hand side, either in a knife pouch or my pocket.

pax said:
The single most common failure point for a semi-auto is the magazine. A spare magazine is thus a quick fix for a non-functioning gun.
The main reason I carry one.
 
Why would they question it? It's hidden under teh same cover garment hidding your gun on the other side of your waist ain't it?
I often carry under a tucked shirt. The knife/mag pouch can be in plain sight. That's a whole lot easier than having to tuck items on both sides of my body.

Regards,
Dirty Bob
 
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