I see reviews all the time with guys claiming 1 inch groups at 100 yards, with a 223, or 308, and seem to be overjoyed with that. Now I am not Buffalo Bill, but if you can't shoot a quarter sized group with a thousand dolar rifle, at 100 yards, I guess I have been out of touch. My cronies and I always shot 25 yards with our pistols, usually the lenghth of the indoor range, Now that would be with a 19, 23, or a 1911 easilly. "a good one". Now I can say that a 357 with a 6 inch or longer barrell should go way past that, even a 22 mag with a 8 or 10 inch barrell. So where is the line generally drawn. To me rifles are for over 100 yards unless an animal is what we are talking about. but paper targets, that seems like not much of a challenge or reason to buy an expensive rifle that can shoot 1000 yards. Am I wrong or has the world gotten smaller. Maybe this is just the way it is now.U tube, also has ruined the perception of what guns are for, and how they work.