Some very good point being brought up here. But there are some things that need to stay clear. Obviously, one of the 6 scenarios I brought up, was to be concealed, not tell the host of the home you were going into, they don't know and don't find out, you leave later, all it well. This is definitely an option. If you don't tell anyone and they don't know and don't find out, then all of this is a moot point.
Unfortunately, there are times when they will find out. Maybe you are visiting and indoors you aren't wearing any jacket, and no matter how good your holster, someone can notice a bulge that doesn't look normal. This thread is about going into another person's house and them KNOWING you are carrying (However they found out).
The other problem is believing that life and situations are finite. They aren't. For instance, Torgue, you listed a profile that supposedly everyone fits into when in your company. Unfortunately, it isn't complete. What if you are dating someone, who is invited over to a co-workers house for a party, and she invited you to accompany her. You don't know 1 person at this party. Of course, in your mind set, you won't go unless you are armed. Yet, you take the chance of putting your girlfriend's future with her peers and employer at risk. Or, your girl friend knows you carry, and asks you to not bring it to the party. You then decide to tell her that you are breaking up because she chose her career over your right to carry a concealed weapon.
What about in reverse torque. You decide to have a party or get together. Supposedly you only invite people you know intimately. But what about the friend who says, "Can I bring a date". You say no problem. Then, somehow during the party, you happen to know that this person is carrying. How do you react and feel?
See, the problem, which is totally legitimate, is that most of us on this forum are looking at this from a "LEGAL POINT OF VIEW". We are assuming that we all have this right to carry a weapon and that the other people need to respect that right. But what we are forgetting are 2 VERY, VERY, VERY important things.
1. You can't ALWAYS hide a concealed weapon 100% when in a casual and intimate environment such as a social get together at another person's house. There is too much greeting, hugging, sitting, standing, etc... Your chances go way up that someone is going to notice that you are carrying.
2. The MOST IMPORTANT THING TO CONSIDER is that not all people are law abiding. After all, that is one of the main reasons you are carrying concealed. Who says that the person who walks into your house carrying concealed has a permit to do so. They are the date of one of your guests. You don't know this person is trained and legal to carry. Just as many people carry concealed illegally as do legally. So now, how about the host of the house you have entered. You say that if you don't know this person then you aren't going in unarmed. Does that mean that the same applies for them coming into your house? Oh yea, you know everyone that comes into your house. Even a new boyfriend of anyone you invite over. The problem is, you can't have 100% control over every person's house you enter or who enters you house.
Of course, you could be the type that rarely ever socializes. Never go to someone else's house that you don't know. Never have get togethers or parties at your house where a known guest might invite someone you don't know. Where you believe that everyone who carries a concealed weapon must be legal and trained. That anyone who doesn't know you and somehow finds out that you are carrying must automatically know that you are trustworthy, trained, and legal to carry. That you aren't someone that just carries illegally.
The point is, there are plenty of times when you probably shouldn't carry a gun into another person's house. Just like you probably wouldn't want a person carrying a gun into your house. You do NOT get to control the situation as perfectly as you would like. You might think you can, but you can't. That is life. You could become a hermit and live a sheltered life. This is indeed possible. In which case, you have a better chance of controlling your environment and protecting yourself from a "Home Invasion". But for most people, there are going to be times where you need to leave the gun in the car or at home and not take it into another person's house. There are way too many scenarios where this situation is true. You might think that if that is the situation, then you just won't go. Or, where you will go armed anyway. That's fine. That's what this whole debate has been about. Whether you put the right to carry a concealed weapon ahead of friendship, family, and the rights of others. It isn't as black and white as I will "ALWAYS" carry or I won't go. I guess that is an option, but then you have already answered the underlying question. You believe that your right to carry a concealed weapon trumps all other rights for others, their friendships, and their relationships. Later... Mike....
