which handguns have grip safeties?

[Krenn]

I'm looking at the springfield XD-40, which looks great, and I like the grip and trigger safeties. only problem is that crimson trace doesn't offer a laser package for the XD's yet.... and I want that too.

so, what common handguns have grip safeties, so that I can check and see if crimson site supports it? I suppose I could always go with certain 1911's, but that just seems to old...

 

[Lazarus40]

Grip safeties

Ok...besides the Early Luger (sorta where the 1911 GOT her grip safety) you have the Glisenti 1910, the 1910 and 1922 Brownings, the UZI SMG, the Colt 1905 25 auto, and the P-35 Radom (VIS). I'll let someone else take it from here......

 

[1911Tuner]

Gripped

Don't forget the Smith & Wesson wheelgun...can't remember the model designation at the moment...that became affectionately known as "The Lemon Squeezer." Jim Keenan will be along any minute now...

Haven't seen one in over 20 years...

 

[Brian Williams]

S&W 40, just like the one goalie here on THR got free from a friend. Only his is an older pre-40, very nice.

 

[AirForceShooter]

a 1911 is too old?
He didn't say that did he?
Just kidding, maybe

AFS

 

[Krenn]

it's single action, large, heavy, low-capacity, with an oversized thumb safety and not enough passive safeties.

I REALLY like the XD-40, I just don't want to settle for the lasermax if i have prayer at crimson trace.

 

[Brian Williams]

it's single action,

for me this means it can have the best trigger around.

large,

Same size as my S&W 13 and just about the same as most "full-sized" autos

heavy,

For me it means it will be controlable

low-capacity,

This means for me that I can not pray and spray and I must shoot accurately

with an oversized thumb safety

I guess he never shot a real GI safety

not enough passive safeties

.
For me the best passive safety is my finger off the trigger.
Series 80 and Scwhartz are terrible.

Passive Safeties tend to make a person rely on them and not doing the thinking, that is why Glocks tend to have so many NDs

 

[tomkatz]

Don't forget the Smith & Wesson wheelgun...can't remember the model designation at the moment...that became affectionately known as "The Lemon Squeezer." Jim Keenan will be along any minute now...

Haven't seen one in over 20 years...

Here she is

 

[Dr.Rob]

I think some Colt 1903 variants have grip safeties... wouldn't put a laser on one though.

I completely understand why there is one on the 1908 vest Pocket pistol.

 

[The Drew]

it's single action, large, heavy, low-capacity, with an oversized thumb safety and not enough passive safeties.

I REALLY like the XD-40, I just don't want to settle for the lasermax if i have prayer at crimson trace.

Umm... The XD is single action too... (I have one) and for my money the trigger on a 1911 is leaps and bounds above that of the XD, and the XD is leaps and bounds ahead of a glock...

There are double stack 1911's, and there are 1911's with alloy or polymer frames... and the thumb safety comes in tons of different configs...

If you want a gun that can take crimson trace... Then check their website for guns that they support, and make your decision based on that... Honestly, though if you learn how to shoot properly, that laser is only a light that shows your enemy where you are...

If you want low light sights then go tritium.

No gadget will make up for poor marksmanship...

 

[Moonclip]

You guys forgot about the Sundance Boa 25acp! On one version too, it had a laser activated by the grip safety being depressed! My Boa cost $50 in 1994 and it showed.

 

[albanian]

What is with you 1911 nut jobs? A guy states that he doesn't want to buy a 1911 but rather something newer. He gives some reasons (which he shouldn't have to do) and he is jumped for not towing the 1911 party line. Lay off, he doesn't want a 1911 at the moment. You 1911 guys are worse than Glock fanatics.

I'm not trying to start a flame war because I really don't care what any fanatic has to say anymore. I am just getting tired of people forcing their favorite gun on everyone else all the time. It is too the point where you can't even say that you don't like 1911s without someone telling you why you are wrong.

If 1911s are so great, why is everyone so worried what people think of them? If they are the best gun ever, why are they quickly becomming a faded memory in LE and military circles? 1911s are good guns, I have one and I will buy more in the future. I also think Glocks are good guns as well as many other guns. I don't see why one is held up to be better than all the rest for every job. The 1911 is great at some things but there are better guns to do many of the things that the 1911 once did. It is outdated as a CCW and just about everyone knows it now. Aside from every gun rag having a 1911 on the cover every month, how many people really carry them? I know a lot of people that CCW and very few of them carry a 1911 of any sort. Of those that do carry a 1911, they are either somthing like a Kimber Ultra Carry or a Para with an alloy frame.

Nothing wrong with the Ultra Carry or the Para but they are not really 1911s. A 1911 is a 5" all steel 7-8 shot .45acp. How many people want to lug around 2.5lbs of steel for a measly 8 shots? Not me.

 

[crucible]

If they are the best gun ever, why are they quickly becomming a faded memory in LE and military circles?

Liability-real or imagined-the inability and/or outright refusal to train and trust masses of employees at the lowest common denominator of thier (hired) ability, and lastly I imagine, cost as Glocks bought en masse can probably be bought more inexpensively than loaded Springfield 1911's.

Less to do with the 1911 IMO, and more to do with politically and financially expedient pandering (M9 9mm adoption by the military included).

How many people want to lug around 2.5lbs of steel for a measly 8 shots?

FWIW-with a good hoslter and belt, the weight isn't an issue. It simply isn't. (I CCW one flavor of 1911 most everyday, and it's 8+1 for me btw. I hardly feel underarmed.)

C-

 

[Moonclip]

I'm not a 1911 fanatic by any means but if anything, I see 1911's as making a comeback with LE and military somewhat, especially LE.

I don't know about your area, but in mine, 1911 pattern pistols are seen in LE holsters where maybe 20 years ago it would have been generally unheard of in many areas except for maybe SWAT.

 

[Technosavant]

Albanian-

He comes in asking for a gun with the features of a 1911, but specifically excludes it for emotional, not logical, reasons. Unfortunately for him, the features he is seeking aren't going to be found on a more "modern" handgun. So he needs to reevaluate either his desire for certain features or he needs to get over his emotional issues with the 1911.

The reason we 1911 lovers are so quick to defend the gun is because there is just so freakin' much disinformation and ignorance out there about it. Old doesn't mean obsolete; just as the military how much they like their M2 machine guns. Or some other shooters how they enjoy the BHP. Funny... those are also JMB designs. Maybe in 75 years we'll be hearing the same things about the Glock or the Beretta 92. We'll have to wait and see.

 

[1911Tuner]

re:

it's single action, large, heavy, low-capacity, with an oversized thumb safety and not enough passive safeties.

I REALLY like the XD-40, I just don't want to settle for the lasermax if i have prayer at crimson trace.

Yes it is...Some find the size and weight a burden...Some find it comforting.
Besides...If you're outta ammo and the BG is still on ya, you can use it to beat
the hell of of him.

Not enough passive safeties???

Lemme see...Thumb safety that requires a concious effort to disengage-Check!

Grip safety that blocks the trigger and requires grabbin' the gun to disengage...Check!

A trigger that has to be pulled to make it go bang...Check!

A positive disconnect that keeps the gun from firing out of battery...Check!

Half-cock to stop the hammer if all else fails...which is highly unlikely...Check!

If ya get a Series 80 or one that uses the Swartz system, there's that.

How many more do ya reckon it needs?

Bottom line is...It's a GUN, fer cryin' out loud. It AIN'T safe!

 

[duncan]

I'm looking at the springfield XD-40, which looks great, and I like the grip and trigger safeties. only problem is that crimson trace doesn't offer a laser package for the XD's yet.... and I want that too.

so, what common handguns have grip safeties, so that I can check and see if crimson site supports it? I suppose I could always go with certain 1911's, but that just seems to old...

These laser sights look cool.

BUT

They are not going to make you a better shooter or improve your accuracy. I've shot a couple different guns with those type laser sights on them. Not one of the shooters who owned those guns could shoot even a 2" at 10 yards with that sighting system.

With lots of adreline under stress, sweating, pit in your stomach and the pucker reflex (military/LEOs know this), you can just chuck that device.

Your hand will be trembling and shaking and you'll be lucky just to shoot him because you are focusing on getting your "dot" in him.

Well, could be a nice intimidation device.

But in a real life shooting situation, confirming your threat and point shooting is what real defensive shooting is about.



That is just a toy.

Leave the lasers to the pro's!

 

[Cazach]

Buy the XD, install a lasermax system (replaces the recoil spring and guide rod) and be done with it.

XD's are great, 1911's are great, Glocks are great.......it's whatever melts your butter.