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Hello everyone, I have been thinking of getting into an ar-15 for several months now. I've decided to buy an upper and lower separate, and then upgrade the lower accordingly... after countless hours on the net doing some research, I settled upon a white oak armament upper! I ordered the varmint upper with the 20"sdm barrel using a rifle length gas system. It comes threaded and with a flash hider birdcage and a 1in 8" twist barrel. I plan to shoot it suppressed mainly! Did I make a good choice? Comments? Now as far as the lower goes, I'm open to suggestions for the parts... I'm thinking to use an A2 style stock, jard trigger, ambitious latch release, and anti walk pins... will these be good choices? I plan to shoot 70-77gr pills, what buffer would suit it best? Thanks
 
I like putting a carbine buffer tube and an H3 buffer on 20" barrels. I remove weights if needed. H6 is also GTG. I use a bigger than normal stock like a Magpul ACS.

WOA is good stuff. Expensive barrels.
 
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If you're using a fixed A2 stock, you won't have to worry about buffer weights. From my understanding, rifle buffers come in one weight, and that weight is ideal for most AR15s. Look into an A1 stock if you're wanting something with a shorter LOP than the A2, since it's about 5/8 shorter, IIRC, and uses the same receiver extension as the A2, just without the spacer that the A2 stock requires. I have a Cavalry A1 stock on my rifle, which I like, especially since I'm a smaller person.

Please note that buffers and springs for rifle tubes are different than buffers and springs for carbine tubes. You absolutely do not want to run a rifle tube with a carbine buffer, nor do you want to run a carbine tube with a rifle buffer. Doing either opens you up to causing permanent damage to the gun.

Anti-rotation pins shouldn't be necessary. Most who run ARs hard in carbine courses and the like never end up needing them. From my understanding, they shouldn't provide any noticeable benefit on semi-auto ARs, especially one that won't be run hard. If the receiver was extremely valuable, such as pre-86 registered FA lowers, it might be worth the investment, but semi-auto recievers are inexpensive enough that in the unlikely event that you start to have issues it could be replaced. More than likely the pins would be an unnecessary expense.

I can't say I know much about precision shooting, nor do I have much experience with White Oak, but I've heard nothing but praise regarding their quality, and they're almost always one of the top recommendations when the topic of a precision rifle comes up.

Congrats on the upper! Make sure you post pics and a review once you've got some time behind the trigger!
 
You can not go wrong with John Hollinger. He builds some of the best competition AR's that can be bought. His products are top quality.
 
Save your money on the anti-walk pins. I had a pair many years ago and have since removed them. None of my several other AR-15s have had them. The pins do not move when properly installed with the trigger.

From WOA, I have a 20" DCM profile 223 Remington barrel and a 26" 204 Ruger barrel. Both shoot very well.

Your upper should perform well.
 
Save your money on the anti-walk pins. I had a pair many years ago and have since removed them. None of my several other AR-15s have had them. The pins do not move when properly installed with the trigger.

From WOA, I have a 20" DCM profile 223 Remington barrel and a 26" 204 Ruger barrel. Both shoot very well.

Your upper should perform well.
Do you use factory ammo in your sdm or handload? If you handload, would you share some recipes?
 
Do you use factory ammo in your sdm or handload? If you handload, would you share some recipes?

I have an upper with the 20" fluted SDM, 1/8. Great barrel. I handload for it and use it at 550 yards all the time. If you are not going to exceed 600 yards then my best load is a 53 grain Vmax with 26.5 grains H4895 in Lake City cases. MV of 3412 and will shoot sub MOA at 100 yards easily.

The 53 Vmax is a widely underestimated bullet, check out it's ballistics vs. the traditional heavy weight bullets, you may be surprised. If you go past 600 then the heavies win out.

My goal this year is to shoot it sub MOA at 500 meters, but I have not been able to achieve that yet. A 40% hit rate is the best I've been able to do so far, but I still think that ain't too bad. Shooting at a 5" steel plate.
 
I received my upper today! I will get picks up asap... now I have to order all my other components!
 
Do you use factory ammo in your sdm or handload? If you handload, would you share some recipes?

I handload.

Currently, I use Accurate 2230 with 55 grain bullets and Varget with 69 grain bullets in my 223 Remington WOA barrel rifle.

I've had success with CFE223 in the 204 Ruger and one of these days will try it in the 223 Remington.

Lots of other powders work well as well.
 
I have the White Oak NM upper. Very accurate for the little I have actually shot it so far.
 
Hey guys, I wanted to give an update on my ar... I bought a woa upper with the 20" 8" twist sdm barrel with a rifle length gas system, rock river A2 lower with their nm trigger, yhm qd flash hider for my can, a warne canteleiver 30mm mount, and a swfa 10x scope... I still plan to get a jard trigger and I am still checking out different buttstocks for an eventual replacement if I decide I don't like the A2... I have a box of black hills 77gr otm bullets to get started and I am aquiring everything to reload this caliber... I have some 77gr sierra tmk that I will reload in my lc brass using tac... I have to say that the fit between the woa upper and the rock river lower is astounding! There is zero, I mean zero play between the two... as though they are one piece... will post pictures soon...
 
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Took my rifle to the range today along with some blackhills 77gr otm ammo to zero the scope and shoot a little... I began at 30 yds, when I got it close, I moved out to 100yds... I used some splatter targets to aim at... I took three shots and saw only one hit, I thought something was wrong until I walked downrange and saw this...
 

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It put 3 shots in a group that measures right at .448" center to center with bh 77gr otm... I was blown away by the accuracy of this rifle... here's a rundown of what it is so far: it's is a white oak armament 8 twist sdm upper that is mated to a rock river A2 lower with their nm trigger. ..I have an swfa ss 10x sitting in a warne canteleiver mount. ..the group shown above was shot suppressed! Here she is
 

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* * * I settled upon a white oak armament upper! I ordered the varmint upper with the 20"sdm barrel using a rifle length gas system. It comes threaded and with a flash hider birdcage and a 1in 8" twist barrel. I plan to shoot it suppressed mainly! Did I make a good choice?* * *

WOA is always a good choice.

I built my SPR starting with a WOA upper, using their 18" SS, 1/7 twist 5.56mm SPR barrel with Wylde chamber. To compliment the barrel, I installed a Geissele DMR trigger in the lower. This combo has proven to be extremely accurate with Match-grade ammo. Mine consistently shoots Norma's 77gn Match load into sub-MOA groups out to 400yds. Scope is a Vortex 2.5x-10x in an ADM mount. To keep weight down, I run a CTR with RISR cheekpiece. This combo provides a perfect LOP (when adjusted to a particular shooting position), while the RISR keeps my eye positioned "in" the optic at any level of magnification.

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