R.W.Dale said:
Can anyone here lay out a scenario where a grip safety would prevent an inattentive "glock style" ND just because of the grip safety
Re-Holstering
The clever person, realizing that their gun is equipped with a grip safety, will re-holster the gun by pressing it gently into the holster on the rear of the SLIDE, instead of just shoving it in the holster blindly.
Do I have to post pictures to explain this concept? I really don't want to do a bunch of awkward behind-the-hip photography.
-You have a gun in your hand that you no longer need in your hand, and would prefer to have a gun in your holster.
-You do an admin check on the gun, ensuring it has a round in the chamber and a full mag (or post defense, you at least know how emptied the mag is and might slap in a fresh one)
-You shift your grip to: non-trigger fingers on front of gripframe, trigger finger along frame, thumb on rear of slide (or for 1911 type, thumb holding hammer back)
-You reach back and gently place the gun in the holster
This procedure does not need to be performed in a rush, and minimizes the inherent risk associated with putting a gun in the holster blindly. I can't see my holster, and not just because of my affinity for pastries ... it's just behind my hip and under a shirt.
Skribs said:
Like I said, Black, reholstering isn't a valid arguement. Unless you reholster without gripping the gun.
ETA: Also, if you made an XD without a grip safety, you wouldn't have a 1911 with no manual safety. You would have a Glock or an M&P with no manual safety.
R.W.Dale said:
dollars to doughnuts these same people railing for grip safety because "they won't hurt anything" are the same ones railing against internal locks in other threads
A grip safety is a PASSIVE SAFETY DEVICE while an internal lock is a MANUAL DEVICE. And the problem with internal locks (and magazine interlocks) is that they get mandated by legislators ... the same legislators who don't know what a "barrel shroud" is.
matrem said:
I can think of at least one DEA agent, (with dreadlocks & in a classroom) that I'll bet wished he'd had a grip safety and had practiced what post # 16 said.
I don't know if anything short of a blue dummy gun would have saved that clown. He just wasn't willing to pay 100% attention to the weapon in his hand, probably due to either stage fright or trying to "look cool" (or a combination of the two)