Who doesn’t own/like AR’s?

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Didn’t post this as a SHTF or piss off govt I shot one last week and said man, that was kinda fun. Not searching for 50pc of brass in the grass and only finding 10 but it was ok. I started thinking i could get one and just blast the snot out of gongs 300yards away, shoot some coyotes, etc. Than my reality angel on my shoulder starts talking and says use your bolt gun for coyote hunting or blasting. Get a pistol caliber carbine instead for some of the steel shoots.
I wear both earplugs and muffs at the range; I can't easily hear the steel ping at 300 yards with a .223 round. That's where the big WW2 milsurps come in handy 😁
 
I sort of feel the same way about bolt rifles, they are really only good for shooting targets at the range, playing long range games, and for shooting the big heavy magnums. I own several but they are only used for target shooting or if I travel somewhere to hunt that an AR wouldn't be legal to use.

I find bolt guns extremely boring and mine never see the light of day.
 
I don't own one, but I don't own a 1911 either. It would just be a range toy to me, and since most people I shoot with bring theirs, I get to know how to operate one just fine anyway.
 
For those that believe Cooper's "poodle shooter" moniker for .223, yes it was based on a varmint round (.222 Rem.)

I would agree with the people that call it a poodle shooter if the only thing available was 55 grain 223. Going to 77 grain 223 or one of the dozens of other calibers available completely changes that dynamic though.
 
What calibers can be used in a bolt rifle that cannot be used in an AR15?
Many, to numerous to count.

I think you meant cartridges. There's a difference. I'll try to give you an example. 243 Winchester is a cartridge. The caliber happens to be the same as many rifles that use .243 diameter or 6mm bullets, which relates to the bore of the rifle. A 6mm Rem can't be chambered in a 243 Win although the the calibers are the same.

Maximum OAL for an AR-15 cartridge is 2.26". That's the standard magazine length. A 22-250 can't be used in a standard AR-15, even with a barrel mod, because of the OAL of the cartridge. The 2.26" also eliminates many of the larger 6, 6.5 and 7mm cartridges because of OAL.

One of the reasons the Army just moved away from the M4. The new cartridge is 6.8 x 51mm. They just couldn't drive anymore round pegs into square holes, although they tried for years.
 
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I wear both earplugs and muffs at the range; I can't easily hear the steel ping at 300 yards with a .223 round. That's where the big WW2 milsurps come in handy 😁
When you mag dump 30rd on that gong as fast as you can i think you will know you hit it lol
 
I've never warmed up to the AR platform....there is nothing about them that appeals to me, beyond large-cap magazines. I don't like direct-impingement anything, and I particularly dislike AR stocks, and the lack of drop-at-heel. I want the line of sight low, over-the-bore, and comfortably above my shoulder.

If I had $8K burning a hole in my pocket, I'd go for something in the Sig 550 series.
 
Assembled an AR when I thought the political future would prevent me from owning one.

Didn’t take long before I realized there was nothing I really liked about it.

Sold it and bought a Mini-14, which I’m very happy with. The Mini reminds me of guns I used in the military, the M-14 and the M-1 Carbine.

I can see where folks who served with a M-16 style weapon might get nostalgic for an AR.
 
When you mag dump 30rd on that gong as fast as you can i think you will know you hit it lol

Really fun game to play with an AR is to shoot at a steel gong at like 400 yards and try to let the 2nd round fly before the first hits the plate. That's what an AR does really really well in my opinion, shoot very accurately very quickly. I'm not into mag dumps but nailing a long range double tap or triple tap is pretty good rush.
 
I never liked the 30 mags. Too heavy when loaded to shoot offhand, difficult shoot them on the bench, go thru alot of ammo. I have lots of them, only because they came with the bundle deals of ammo from Palmetto. I like the 10 rounders best. The 30 rounders sit in the cabinet, loaded, for when the SHTF.
 
Assembled an AR when I thought the political future would prevent me from owning one.

Didn’t take long before I realized there was nothing I really liked about it.

Sold it and bought a Mini-14, which I’m very happy with. The Mini reminds me of guns I used in the military, the M-14 and the M-1 Carbine.

I can see where folks who served with a M-16 style weapon might get nostalgic for an AR.

I have both a Mini and an M1 carbine. I like the operating system much better than the M4. Although the AR is generally more accurate than either, they'll get the job done at 200 yds. I use the irons on my M1 and hits on 18'' plates at 200 isn't a problem.
 
What calibers can be used in a bolt rifle that cannot be used in an AR15?
Well for starters my:

416 Rigby
375 H&Hs
9.3X62
6.5-300 Wby
300 Wby
30-06s
270s
25-06
This is a list for a standard AR15. I realize the specialized and expensive Noreen BN36 is an exception.
 
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I don't own one, never have. I don't see the AR-15 design as an improvement over a bolt rifle for hunting. Actually it's a step down as accuracy generally can't match a bolt rifle in the same price range. There's also a better selection of cartridges for bolt rifles. We all know why.
Do you actually believe that?
 
I don't own one, but I don't own a 1911 either. It would just be a range toy to me, and since most people I shoot with bring theirs, I get to know how to operate one just fine anyway.
I'm pretty much in that category, also, but I do have a 1911 pattern basic 45 and a plain M4 style AR.

Taking careful deliberate shots is my thing, and I don't need something that fires faster. BUT, a magazine dump once in a while is a hoot! :cool:
 
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Who doesn’t own one or like them and why? Imo all they are good for is mag dumps and shooting games, but i am a hunter and all my long guns are hunting related. I have been debating really hard on getting one but really all i can see myself using it for would be coyote hunting and maybe shooting games, steel plate shooting, etc. i just don’t see a practical purpose. Anyone else the same?

Maybe i would be more suited with a PCR. I am slightly intrigued by the AR after handling a few today and shooting one. I’m thinking maybe it would be fun and if i end up hating it i could sell it.
Get a 16in 5.56 rifle gas system build like mine and you're gonna be in love. Smooth shooter and very light recoil with a muzzle brake/suppressor. I have a thread on the build I'll link to.

Thread 'New AR15 Build Idea I Had.' https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/new-ar15-build-idea-i-had.923552/
 
Popular thread. Lots of comments in 24 hours.
I did not read all the responses.

I have owned a few AR-15s. I enjoyed putting them together, but they really didn’t “trip my trigger” until I bought my Ruger SFAR. I like the .308 round. I have little respect for .223/5.56 and I wasn’t willing to try other rounds that will work in an AR-15.
I have no interest in a model 10 due to weights and sizes.
I like my SFAR, but I don’t love it. I had some issues with mine that Ruger says they addressed. We’ll see.

I think if you have an interest in trying an AR you definitely should get one and try it. They are fun guns to shoot and ammo is readily available.
Check around local ranges near you and see if you can rent one.

Going solely by other people’s opinions on a particular type of gun is a good idea for a baseline of your own opinion, but actually shooting and handling one should help with your final determination.
I say that because for years I hated Glock pistols without ever firing one. I did the same regarding AR’s - I didn’t hate them but I did not like them.
After shooting Glocks and ARs I have come to love my Glocks and I do like ARs, just in bigger more substantial ammunition.
 
I didn't own one for a long time. My initial experience with the platform was M16a1 qualifying in ROTC and running field exercises. Wasn't super impressed so pretty much didn't care about them one way or another until just a few years ago when my son started working in a gun shop. One thing lead to another and now I have a few. A railed AR rifle chambered in 6.5 or larger calibers paired with night vision optics and a decent tripod, is about perfect hog and predator hunting rigs. Fast shooting, accurate, and easy to adjust as field conditions dictate. I do have a 223 but not a fan of using that cartridge for hunting so it's mostly a range toy. I do however appreciate the lower cost ammunition for volume plinking.
 
I never had an AR and probably never will. I fired 5 rounds several years ago with a friend's 5.56 AR and was not particularly impressed. I will proudly admit that I am a blue steel - walnut kind of guy. I only own 1 semi-auto rifle. A .22 Sears Roebuck bought at a flea market over 40 years ago. My carry gun is a Springfield XDs -.45 ACP. Started hunting with a Remington .22 bolt action in the late 1950s and it still works for woodchucks. Had a High Standard .22 revolver for while. Gave it to dad when I bought a Ruger Blackhawk .357 in 1964. Got it back when he passed. It also still works for woodchucks. First deer rifle was a used Winchester 94 (pre-64). Then a M-98 in 30-06, followed by a Ruger #1 in 300 Win Mag for Pennsylvania hunting. The #1 also works for woodchucks. One year I carried my FIL's Winchester M-1895 in 35 WCF and he had his M-1886 in 33 WCF. That was a fun season. Back in Ohio deer were hunted with a Ruger Super Redhawk in .44 Mag. It also works for woodchucks. When straight walled cartridges became legal my Marlin 95 in 45-70 was used. By the way, it also works for woodchucks. I haven't deer hunted since 1980, but my XDs also works for woodchucks.

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Well for starters my:

416 Rigby
375 H&Hs
9.3X62
6.5-300 Wby
300 Wby
30-06s
270s
25-06
This is a list for a standard AR15. I realize the specialized and expensive Noreen BN36 is an exception.
Many, to numerous to count.

I think you meant cartridges. There's a difference. I'll try to give you an example. 243 Winchester is a cartridge. The caliber happens to be the same as many rifles that use .243 diameter or 6mm bullets, which relates to the bore of the rifle. A 6mm Rem can't be chambered in a 243 Win although the the calibers are the same.

Maximum OAL for an AR-15 cartridge is 2.26". That's the standard magazine length. A 22-250 can't be used in a standard AR-15, even with a barrel mod, because of the OAL of the cartridge. The 2.26" also eliminates many of the larger 6, 6.5 and 7mm cartridges because of OAL.

One of the reasons the Army just moved away from the M4. The new cartridge is 6.8 x 51mm. They just couldn't drive anymore round pegs into square holes, although they tried for years.

I have a habit of adding the "15" after "AR", but just about every caliber you just listed can be had in the AR platform.
 
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