Rival
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Who makes the best 9mm ever, what model, and why?
Who makes the best 9mm ever?
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Oh boy, this will get interesting to say the least. My vote was for CZ. The P-01 went through the most rigerous torture test that I know of and passed with flying colors. The CZ 75B is not to shabby either. I have shot some of the the others but if its going to be in 9mm then give me a CZ.
P-01 Torture Test.
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P-01 Torture Test.
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Spieler
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I don't think you'll get much consensus on this one. They are all top manufacturers and have put out multiple quality 9mm models. I think people will vote for the ones they have invested in. And then you have to ask the best model for what? Law enforcement? Home defense? General Military issue? Cost effectiveness? Ease of manufacture? Ease of use?......
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It's just a race of the top manufacturers... It's fun to see who comes up on the top
The best one for YOU personally, doesn't matter if it's compact or military.
Mac Attack
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Either Browning Hi-Power, Sig P210 or HK P7. Both are the best in their class bar none.
I'll second Col. Cooper's nomination of the CZ-75 as the world's best crunchenticker.
What other pistol on the list has both seen the stratospheric pricing of the next to unobtainable HK P7M8, when the Czech wondernine was locked behind the Iron Curtain, and been priced alongside a common Ruger in the free market, and still all the while have been the same great fighting pistol made entirely from metal with few, if any, serious manufacturing shortcuts?
Stronger than a SIG or Beretta. As wieldy and more versatile than a BHP. Capable of being a serious competition platform and a military sidearm without extensive modifications. Capable of a higher level of classiness than any combat tupperware. It completely outclasses many pistols costing upwards of three hundred dollars more. Except for the price and the JMB connection to the BHP, the CZ line IMO, most captures in the 9mm platform the greatest aspects of the 1911 in the .45 realm. Toughness, customizeability, C&L carry, and fits more hands than the BHP does.
The CZ is the only semi-auto I have ever shot that was a "revelation." It is the only one which ever made me rethink my stance on DA/SA triggers and say to myself, "Why haven't I had one of these for the past fifteen years?" Their relative scarcity keeps them the worst kept secret in handgunning because if more people had the opportunity to try one, the price would escalate accordingly. The only big cheap out on the average pistol are its substandard sights, but the aftermarket cares more and more about this pistol. Its legend has been growing ever since it achieved cult status on The Firing Line a scant three to four years ago.
Oddly for a pistol design from the 70s that has inspired an entire line for CZ and products from at least four clone makers I can think of, the best days of the design are still ahead of it. The internet is going to be the best thing that ever happened to CZ as a firearms company and the worst thing for its heretofore low end pricing.
What other pistol on the list has both seen the stratospheric pricing of the next to unobtainable HK P7M8, when the Czech wondernine was locked behind the Iron Curtain, and been priced alongside a common Ruger in the free market, and still all the while have been the same great fighting pistol made entirely from metal with few, if any, serious manufacturing shortcuts?
Stronger than a SIG or Beretta. As wieldy and more versatile than a BHP. Capable of being a serious competition platform and a military sidearm without extensive modifications. Capable of a higher level of classiness than any combat tupperware. It completely outclasses many pistols costing upwards of three hundred dollars more. Except for the price and the JMB connection to the BHP, the CZ line IMO, most captures in the 9mm platform the greatest aspects of the 1911 in the .45 realm. Toughness, customizeability, C&L carry, and fits more hands than the BHP does.
The CZ is the only semi-auto I have ever shot that was a "revelation." It is the only one which ever made me rethink my stance on DA/SA triggers and say to myself, "Why haven't I had one of these for the past fifteen years?" Their relative scarcity keeps them the worst kept secret in handgunning because if more people had the opportunity to try one, the price would escalate accordingly. The only big cheap out on the average pistol are its substandard sights, but the aftermarket cares more and more about this pistol. Its legend has been growing ever since it achieved cult status on The Firing Line a scant three to four years ago.
Oddly for a pistol design from the 70s that has inspired an entire line for CZ and products from at least four clone makers I can think of, the best days of the design are still ahead of it. The internet is going to be the best thing that ever happened to CZ as a firearms company and the worst thing for its heretofore low end pricing.
cool45auto
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Beretta.
mainmech48
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Toss-up for me between the Browning P35 and the CZ 75B. Both fit my hand very well (slight edge here to the CZ), are reliable, accurate, and capable of Condition I carry.
While I don't personally care for the mag safety on the HP, I have to concede that there are situations where an "off" switch could save one's behind, especially an LEO.
I shoot my EAA Witness CZ clone more than any other 9x19 that I own. Easiest sidearm for me to make fast accurate Mozambique drills with that I've ever had.
Hoping that my P-01 does as well (when it gets here). As a southpaw, I'm a bit concerned with how that decocker is gonna work for me.
While I don't personally care for the mag safety on the HP, I have to concede that there are situations where an "off" switch could save one's behind, especially an LEO.
I shoot my EAA Witness CZ clone more than any other 9x19 that I own. Easiest sidearm for me to make fast accurate Mozambique drills with that I've ever had.
Hoping that my P-01 does as well (when it gets here). As a southpaw, I'm a bit concerned with how that decocker is gonna work for me.
WhoKnowsWho
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I really like the 9mm from Winchester since it is so inexpensive... oh... you want a gun to fire it?
nero45acp
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SIG P210
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Black Majik
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The Sig P226
That was the smoothest 9mm to shoot. To me at least.
That was the smoothest 9mm to shoot. To me at least.
Gunsnrovers
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Polls like this should require a flame suit just to view them... 
standingbear
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sig...210 or the 226.
Black Snowman
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Another CZ fan checking in. The one complaint I have about them is realatively cheaply and easily corrected (gritty trigger pulls). After trying many other things, I've come home to CZ
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Rival
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Look, look - the Sig is winning!!! Come on BHP folks, don't let them get ahead!
Carlos Cabeza
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I said BHP just to try and keep it at home. I don't think that'll last tho'. I'm thinking with all the CZ votes I'm gonna go and fondle one tonight.
jdmb03
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Sig P225
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The Browning is the BEST and it's up to other latterday nines to prove they are as good. The P-35 has BEEN in a fight, and has a track record like no other. Everything else is a contender, but there's only ONE CHAMPION.
Browning Hi-Power. Designed by John Moses Browning. 'Nuff said.
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Browning Hi-Power. Designed by John Moses Browning. 'Nuff said.
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Ivy Mike
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another CZ fan checking in. The internal rail slide and excellent ergos make the CZ75 a joy to shoot.
The ability to carry cocked and locked as well as double action is nice too. Solid construction and the more recent, modern finishes trounce the BHP. Granted, the BHP was first, but the CZ is a definite improvement. As far as the Sig goes...nice gun, but at the prices they command...ain't worth it.
The ability to carry cocked and locked as well as double action is nice too. Solid construction and the more recent, modern finishes trounce the BHP. Granted, the BHP was first, but the CZ is a definite improvement. As far as the Sig goes...nice gun, but at the prices they command...ain't worth it.
cratz2
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Well, the 952 is a nice piece as are the SIG 210 and the HK P7 but oi the cost!
Have put countless rounds through various Tauri and Berettas with very, very few problems but they are large guns.
The Hi Powers have been somewhat inconsistant over the years.
I don't have a problem with plastic guns and the Glocks and the HKs are what they are... boringly reliable guns that do absolutely nothing for me.
From a reasonable value perspective, and for a gun I actually like and am likely to carry, I'm awfully enamored of the CZs... particularly the PCR and the P-01.
Have put countless rounds through various Tauri and Berettas with very, very few problems but they are large guns.
The Hi Powers have been somewhat inconsistant over the years.
I don't have a problem with plastic guns and the Glocks and the HKs are what they are... boringly reliable guns that do absolutely nothing for me.
From a reasonable value perspective, and for a gun I actually like and am likely to carry, I'm awfully enamored of the CZs... particularly the PCR and the P-01.
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