Who shoots with a laser: What guns and why?

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Roknstevo said:
I bought my SP101 with laser grips new. The grips would lose zero very quickly. I got tired of having to re-zero. Couldn’t trust them. Took them off and have been much more accurate and comfortable since. I’m pretty old school anyway....somewhere in my 80th decade on the planet. Just my little experience during sharing period.
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Uuuuuhhh......that would be 8th decade...sorry
 
I have a laser on my Keltec P3AT, which is my primary summer carry gun. You can't see the dot at all in the day, so I practice with just the sites. It works well at night, but not something I've practiced a lot with. Overall I wouldn't miss it if it wasn't already there.
 
I had a CT Green laser on my G42. I didn’t like the way it messed with my grip. I gave it to my girl friend at the time. My current G42 just wears night sights. Might look into a laser recoil spring, but want a green one. Green is the way to go.

Lefty
 
I had not really been tempted to add a laser to a defensive* handgun, until I acquired an AR/M4 handgun, a couple of years ago. Using normal sights, with a cheek-weld on the buffer tube, is work-able, but it seems to make plenty of sense to brace the rear of the receiver, or the side of the buffer tube, against the pec muscle area, and maintain target focus, with this type of weapon. A rugged, high-quality laser is on my end-of-June shopping list. (Notably, sights that are typically used on rifles are on the BATFE’s proposed “workshheet,” which moved a laser from my “someday” wish list, to my mid-summer 2021 list.)

I do have training and experience with using lasers on PD-issued Tasers. Based upon this, I do believe that lasers have some amount of utility, on holster-able-sized handguns, but I have generally carried handguns that point quite well, in my hands

*I worked for a police department, from 1983 to 2018, which did not allow us to use laser sights, on any firearm that we would use in defense of self, or others, on or off the clock, with the one exception being home defense, so, I would have been limited in my ability to use a laser, on a handgun, anyway, until recently.
 
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Charter Boomer and a Laser Grip: a marriage made in heaven?

Nope. Just a flirtation made in heaven.

Until this thread taught me better, I wanted to put a laser on a Boomer, just like Jeff Quinn may he RIP says to do

Jeff Quinn teaches that five (5) Boomers may be furnished with laser grips and placed throughout the home, to yield a tactical advantage to the defender in a home invasion scenario

Since “eccentric but loveable old coot” advice is the only advice I ever listen to, or dispense to others, Mr Quinn had me immediately convinced

plus, it seemed like you’ll be having a Boomer, plus getting a whole other aimfire gun in addition, for the price of a laser grip

But reading this thread and hearing that lasers were mostly a gun gimmick that didn’t pan out, tells me these Boomer 44s will never be aimable, and they are pretty much stuck with being

the worlds finest ccw piece bar none


Aiming is for the birds, Swatting is for the B’s

and Booming is for BTFU, MF.
 
pairof44sp said:
But reading this thread and hearing that lasers were mostly a gun gimmick that didn’t pan out, tells me these Boomer 44s will never be aimable, and they are pretty much stuck with being the worlds finest ccw piece bar none
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Reading about it ain't the same as trying it.

Lots of folks with good eyesight and natural night vision don't like lasers because they probably don't need lasers.

Other folks with fuzzy eyes and fixed small diameter pupils find that lasers can be a very useful tool. :)
 
I see lasers as a very helpful device to have on an EDC, if it didn’t add bulk. If it’s going to take up the rail of a pistol, I would rather have a very strong WML. But on my pocket pistols, like the G42, I think they really do aid the shooter.

One thing lasers can be are deterrents. I had and early TLR6 on my Sig P238 Extreme and having the laser at the three thugs feet, stopped them in their tracks. Another incident with an elderly gentleman pulled his NAA BW with CT grips and pointed it at a couple thugs feet that were following his wife back from the rest stop bathroom, stopped them cold as well. All he said was, “Gentlemen do we have a problem?” Their hands went up and they backed away slowly.
 
Sometimes they are distracting in the indoor ranges and washed out in outdoor ranges. I am also a fan of micro red dot with cowitnessed irons.
 
First shot times are way faster and much more accurate with my Crimson Trace Laserguard on my LCPII Lite Rack. The laser becomes activated as you grip the gun and with a little practice with fast fire and no slow fire except to sight it in. If my battery goes dead my small open sights are still available if the situation allows for them.

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I bought crimson tracers for my wife's 642 because I realized how inaccurate I was with it past 7 yards. The only time they were useful to me was after abdominal surgery and I had complications that had me bedridden for 6 months. No way I could move fast enough to reach for night stand or sit up fast if I had to. My incision never closed in those months and pain was excruciating. I figured that if there was a home invasion I would have to shoot from a lying position in the bed. The laser gave me the advantage I needed. In those 6 months I killed everything in my bedroom. In my condition the laser became a very effective and useful too. Now I have my FNX tactical and shotgun I rely on.
 
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I put a CT laser grip on my Beretta 92 over 20 years ago and really like it. It was my duty pistol on the street. In cases we had our pistols out and pointed, the other officers could see exactly where my muzzle was pointed if I was covering a suspect and one of my partners was approaching to cuff and search them. I've got a couple others over the years for other pistols, and also a couple RMR sights. I do like them and even though I'm long retired now, I will still use them. I also have a few pistols with just iron sights and that's OK too. I've never had an issue moving from laser to RMR to iron.
 
WolfNinja said:
Sometimes they are distracting in the indoor ranges and washed out in outdoor ranges. I am also a fan of micro red dot with cowitnessed irons.
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Lasers can make a shooter self conscious because everyone can see the aim point wiggling around. I've never had a comment from other shooters, yet.

Of course, good groups on target speak for themselves no matter if obtained by a laser, red dot, or iron sights. :cool:
 
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LeftyRed said:
I see lasers as a very helpful device to have on an EDC, if it didn’t add bulk. If it’s going to take up the rail of a pistol, I would rather have a very strong WML. But on my pocket pistols, like the G42, I think they really do aid the shooter.

One thing lasers can be are deterrents. I had and early TLR6 on my Sig P238 Extreme and having the laser at the three thugs feet, stopped them in their tracks. Another incident with an elderly gentleman pulled his NAA BW with CT grips and pointed it at a couple thugs feet that were following his wife back from the rest stop bathroom, stopped them cold as well. All he said was, “Gentlemen do we have a problem?” Their hands went up and they backed away slowly.
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there is a laser for shotgun that has like eight dots that spread out to show you the shot spread

A friend put one on one of those Mossberg “no stock” shotguns, and seeing those dots gives you that same “need to check your pants” feeling,

as when you think you are standing all alone in the dark, and then you hear the sound of a shell being racked
 
#pairof44sp

I’ve seen those! Yeah, will need that clean pair of underwear in the glove compartment if I ever saw that pattern on me!

Lefty
 
Two retired undercover New York City detectives told me that they started using lasers as soon as they became available. In several real-life gunfire encounters it allowed them to shoot from behind cover at the suspects without having the ability to properly line up irons sights and aim to fire. I cannot argue with their reasoning and experience.
 
It can be pretty obvious when a laser is played on you. It's more than just the dot on you. Tunnel vision aside.
 
SwampWolf said:
Except nobody is going to examine their chest area while looking down the barrel of a shotgun (or any kind of gun for that matter). Would you?
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I believe that to be true and it can simply be experienced by doing snap cap practice in front of a mirror with your reflection as the target. That's with a gun that has the laser somewhat shielded by the gun itself. Like a revolver laser grip, with the revolver being "fired" from belt buckle height.

With lasers mounted near the muzzle, the target will see some evidence of that laser light on the gun itself.
 
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SwampWolf said:
Except nobody is going to examine their chest area while looking down the barrel of a shotgun (or any kind of gun for that matter). Would you?
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If saw the shotty, hell no! Too focused on that big bore barrel pointed at me! But I’m I just walking around and then see laser beams pointing in my direction in a big ole pattern, I’m sure it will get my attention.
 
I have a friend here in Texas that is an avid arrowhead hunter. He carries a LCP with a red dot laser. The gun is loaded with .38 shotshells. He swears that he has finally found the ideal rattlesnake pocket gun. He comes across a lot of those devil's!
 
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