CAnnoneer
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Anybody legally at large should have access to guns.
And who makes the decision as to who is untrustworthy? The government? What happens if they decide that a speeding or parking ticket makes you untrustworthy? Where does the line get drawn? Once you allow them to start determining where the line is drawn it's going to keep getting closer and closer to you. Eventually overcoming you. Look at Britain and Australia of you don't believe me.Since the untrustworthy, violent, recidivists aren't being locked up for life, it seems reasonable that they at least shouldn't be allowed to legally possess weapons.
Project Exile in Richmond, Virginia drastically reduced the violent crime rate in one year by locking up violent felons with guns. That is a good thing.
I don't want convicted rapists and murderers, to be allowed to purchase guns like any of us. they should have all of the rights in the consitution revoked upon conviction. We don't have the prison capacity to keep all dangerous felons off the streets. So when we think they probably won't repeat their crimes again, without being 100% sure, we still let them go.
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So, the paroled felon cannot have a handgun? Fine, if he is so inclined, he will cheerfully slit your throat with a kitchen knife, stave in your head with a pipe or club, garrotte you with a shoelace, or strangle you with his bare hands. Yet many of the fearless gun rights advocates here would self-righteously deny him access to a firearm. Sure, that will work. And there's a lake of stew and whiskey too on the Big Rock Candy Mountain.
Punish bad acts. You visit violence upon your neighbor, you go to prison, assuming you haven't been otherwise disposed of. If you are deemed fit to be abroad in public, you have full rights restored.
Now that we know there is a strong "support" for 2nd ammendment rights being returned to, or not taken away from citizens that are currently forbidden to own at this time. My question is, How would you lobby for that? What elected law-maker would dare attach their name to such a proposition? I think the NRA is too afraid to take this fight up as well.
Some of my best friends are convicted felons (non-violent) that have done their time and are responsible productive members of society...You might try contacting the American Criminal Lovers Union, they might be willing to take up the fight. Of course, they still won't support YOUR 2nd Amendment Rights, but hey, you gotta start somewhere, right?
If you feel that ALL of an ex-cons rights should be restored, then there should be nothing wrong with a convicted child molester working at an elementary school, a rapist at a women's shelter, or an armed robber as a police officer.
Agreed. Worth repeating.With some sterling exceptions, this is a disgusting and disturbing thread. On a gun-owners, firearms enthusiasts', RKBA board, we have poster after poster bleating about how a fundamental human right - the right to arms for protection of self and family against predatory creatures and predatory government - should be snatched away from anyone who can't be "trusted."
Pardon me, but this response is a non-sequiter. No one has a right to work at an elementary school or a woman's shelter, or as a police officer. To the contrary, one's right to self-defense is granted by God; the means to do so are protected under our federal (and most state) constitutions.