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A1abdj, I appreciate your sharing from professional experiences.
I use[d] Professionals like yourself for needs. My safes varied from Tann's to Walk in vaults to " other professional grade and recommended secure means".
Insurance Companies sure have "ideas" too.
I believe both of you would agree with me on some aspects on all this "Safe" business. I am speaking of the old adage
Software not Hardware.
I had some of the top of the game security measures and safes, I used Professionals to make recommendations install, maintain and upgrade.
Easiest way to by-pass all of this - kidnap me, and at gunpoint open everything up. If not me, family, or employee.
I know, I know all too well. I also know of cases where all these things happened. I know I evaded, and I know sometimes just Lady Luck was on my side.
Another thing, folks advertise w-a-y too much. Part of my work, was a day presence. It was not hard to figure out I had access. I had another secret side, and nobody, not even some family knew what I did.
I did not advertise my life, some could not be helped.
I see and hear folks with guns, advertise, way too much. These same folks wonder how they got hit.
These Professional Security and Safe Folks are great. Better locks, safes, alarms and everything. They can fit budgets, keep you apprised of methods BGs use, or try, or if a bunch is coming to work and area. They will also share things one should know and use - such as common sense.
I have sat in a gun club, minding my own business and overheard someone speak of a new safe, where hidden, and the combo to get in. Not refer to combo being his wife's B-day, not their anniversary date - I mean the actual numbers, turns, and numbers- or - sequence to punch in on an electric pad.
No we cannot live in a bubble, we cannot be paranoid, we can use some common sense.
Granted my sense of security was shaped in how raised, what raised in. I was bonded and licensed by such folks as Lloyd's' of London. I was NOT to ever ride in the same conveyance of some other folks, never to eat at the same restaurants or any public place as they, not even allowed to set foot in some cities. Professional thugs came to areas to do their various skills. Then we had to contend with the regular run of the mill criminals.
Now a family I know does have a $59 RSC they use, they bought to keep the kids when little out of Medicine , OTC or prescribed and other things. Everyone knows this is what it is used for. Not really hidden either. Advertised to keep kids out - "advertised" is the correct word.
Nobody but a few us tight knit bunch, even know they know anything about guns, have guns, CCW, or even shoot. Valuables, like these guns, are in a Safe, real safe, one a Mom&Pop Locksmith and Safe company had , and they bought it used. Had it installed, and even set into concrete, with nuts, bolts, drill bits and other tricks - it ain't coming out. They sell that house, the safe is staying with the house.
What guns?
What safe?
See your Mom&Pop Professional Locksmith, Safe and Security folks - please. Listen to them, and especially listen to not advertising anything.
Steve
Software not Hardware.