The requirement to use a takedown pin is very annoying.
Not a requirement, the gun will come apart without using one.
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The requirement to use a takedown pin is very annoying.
The requirement to use a takedown pin is very annoying.
I can turn a bushing w my finger tips. I wish it was that way.It’s not a new thing. Been going on for over 20 years with different makers of 1911’s.
‘A bushing wrench takes a lot longer for me to find than a paper clip.
I can turn a bushing w my finger tips. I wish it was that way.
I was to understand the hammer & sear on a Kimber(45 pro carry 2) is sintered rather than machined part. I cannot understand why a high end maker would dabble w something that couldnt have cost all that much.
I think a lot of the hate for Kimbers comes from guys who paid more and are annoyed that someone proved it wasn't necessary.
Lol!Here's what I think.
I call it "Ford Taurus Syndrome". Ford built many Tauruses. (Tauri? Whatever.) Many mechanics worked on many of them. Does this mean that Tauri are bad cars? Or does it mean that a higher number of a given model in a marketplace will have a higher number of problems, even if the actual RATE of problems is not high? A high NUMBER of problems does not equal a high RATE of problems. They are two different things. There was a timeframe in the early to mid 2000s when Kimber made and sold (by far) a higher number of .45 caliber pistols than the rest of the manufacturers combined. And a lot of dealers had a lot of customer complaints, and warranty returns. Does this mean a higher RATE of failures, or a higher NUMBER of failures?
Kimber turned the 1911 market on its head. They started making 1911s at a much higher quality level than cay, an off the shelf Colt for the money, and shattered the perception that you have to spend thousands of dollars to get a 1911 that runs well. It forced the rest of the market to tweak their manufacturing and marketing.
I bought a Kimber Custom II in about 2003. It's the best handgun I have ever owned. I carried it for about 15 years. I also have an RIA and a Para. They both had problems and required returns to the manufacturer and local gunsmith tweaking to run well. (The RIA is now my EDC, I wanted a double-stack 9mm.) I have tried other guns more expensive and less expensive, and I found that quality does not match price. I think the Law of Diminishing Returns kicks in on 1911s at about $1000. (I paid $630 for the Kimber in 2003.) You can spend more, but the return in quality will not likely match the amount you paid. (I rented a Nighthawk Custom at a range, and it jammed on me.) Can you spend more? Yes. Can you get better? Probably. But.....is this level of price and quality good enough for YOU personally? You have to decide. It is for me. Could I tweak it and add things like, a custom mainspring housing? Sure. Have I ever broken the plastic one? No. Not on my list of worries. (I do drop the full-length guide rod from all my 1911s.)
I think a lot of the hate for Kimbers comes from guys who paid more and are annoyed that someone proved it wasn't necessary.
Yes they aren’t even close to DW in terms of quality.Nope
Got two 1911s, both Dan Wessons, a heritage and a Valor.
Handling Kimbers at the lgs and range proved I made the right choices.
I'll defer to bc1023 as his experience with 1911s, and most other high end pistols is far greater than mine, but I'd put the Point of Diminishing Returns of a 1911 at closer to $2500...what the SA Professional used to cost. The DW offerings might have brought this down a bitI have tried other guns more expensive and less expensive, and I found that quality does not match price. I think the Law of Diminishing Returns kicks in on 1911s at about $1000.
Lol!
I’ve never heard one person who knows a quality 1911 to ever say Kimber was a good value other than their basic Custom II.
I’ve certainly never heard anybody mention they should have bought a Kimber instead of their Les Baer or Wilson. Just the thought of tjat is hilarious.
I'll defer to bc1023 as his experience with 1911s, and most other high end pistols is far greater than mine, but I'd put the Point of Diminishing Returns of a 1911 at closer to $2500...what the SA Professional used to cost. The DW offerings might have brought this down a bit
Repeating something over and over does not make it truth.Like I said, Kimbers are for amateur 1911 fans who don’t understand quality and like a fancy looking gun.
Nope
Got two 1911s, both Dan Wessons, a heritage and a Valor.
Handling Kimbers at the lgs and range proved I made the right choices.
I'll defer to bc1023 as his experience with 1911s, and most other high end pistols is far greater than mine, but I'd put the Point of Diminishing Returns of a 1911 at closer to $2500...what the SA Professional used to cost. The DW offerings might have brought this down a bit
YesI'll defer to bc1023 as his experience with 1911s, and most other high end pistols is far greater than mine, but I'd put the Point of Diminishing Returns of a 1911 at closer to $2500...what the SA Professional used to cost. The DW offerings might have brought this down a bit
Well I’m this case it’s true whether it’s said at all…Repeating something over and over does not make it truth.
I've heard tell that even Colt made some of their 1911 pistols having plastic mainspring housings.
I purchased this in the 1990's, shot the heck out of it, played a lot of quick draw games.
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wore out two hammers, the factory replaced both at no cost. The last hammer gave an awful trigger pull, so I took my Kimber to Camp Perry and asked the USMC Armorers to do a trigger job. They told me the sear was worn out, and I went to the Springfield Armory pavilion and purchased a forged sear, and I may have found the surplus trigger there. I have short fingers, my finger length is about a digit less than most guys.The Marines did a great trigger job, love it!
This Kimber is still tight, was always accurate, is series 70, it is a great pistol. I like it.