Why are we getting so ripped off on 22LR ammo now?

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Good! IWAC, that's exactly the right approach. If you don't want the ammo so much that you'll pay $0.20 a shot for it, DON'T buy it. Leave it there for someone else who really really wants to shoot that day and is willing to pay that much. At least you can rest assured a scalper isn't going to buy it and re-sell it, because they can't make money, with the purchase price being what it is.
(Just like the generator example in that video I linked to)

And that is called FREE Enterprise - you are free to choose to buy or not. As long as others ARE willing to pay the asking price, the price will remain stable; if more people are willing to pay, then the price goes up; if fewer folks buy and inventories build, the price goes down.
 
Must be a regional thing... I stopped in a couple of sporting goods stores (Dick's, Academy, and Cabelas) looking for some obscure .410 shotgun ammo. All of them had .22LR on the shelves. Dicks and Cabelas had bricks for $.06-.09 per round. Academy had no bulk .22LR. Cabelas had literally dozens and dozens of bricks of .22LR - 1400rd buckets, 555rd, 333rd, 325rd, 222rd bricks. I could have walked out of there with 20,000 rounds of .22LR and still left bulk packs on the shelf.
 
I see you are from Illinois. 100 rounds of ammo. Is that legal there?

WOW! 59 cents. I don't remember how much I paid in the early 70's. Those price tags and packaging scream 1974.

LOL. Yeah it is legal. You are right about time period sometime in early seventies and I did find more than a few boxes in my stash from then. I shot untold tens of thousands of rounds through my trusty Marlin 99 starting in Junior High School in the 60s mostly in the open fields along the train track at the edge of town. Back then I could walk into KMART or where ever and buy all I wanted with no ID or FOID. :D Me and my buddy used to walk the couple miles through town including through the public park with our rifles uncased, usually over our shoulder, and no one gave it a second thought. My how times have changed. :(
 
I've not counted it but I have lots of 22 in various types.

In the past when I saw it I bought it in bulk and set it on the shelf. I shoot it. It's not for sale, but I often give a box or two to dad's at the range with their kids when they run out.
 
I counted; I have a little over 3000 rounds purchased online the past 2 yrs. Never paid more than 8 cents/rnd (most of it with free shipping, was 6 cents). I have also shot well over 1000 rnds the past few years as well. Just have to sign up for alerts, most of it sells out within minutes.
 
I've heard the sporting goods guys say that some of the regular buyers claimed to have 50,000 rds or more and they keep buying all they can. I believe that is whats happened to the overall market on 22's.
^ this is EXACTLY right. The schmucks paying $50 a brick are extending the "shortage" in some areas by feeding the scalper ammo sharks. My rule is don't feed the sharks and you won't have to worry about being bitten! :D
 
I'm finally starting to see 22/LR back on the shelves, but prices are still ridiculous and it's not even the good stuff.

Remington Golden Bullets 550 Round Bricks: $27.95

Remington Thunderbolts 500 Round Bricks: $24.95

Federal Target Loads 325 Bulk Paks: $21.95


NO THANKS!
 
Me too!

Still working off this stash.

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I still have some wildcat left from a brick I bought 20 years ago. It had so much wax on it that any gun I try it in fails to eject after 5 rounds. I think I only have 2 boxes left but those turned up after I thought I was finally done with the stuff.

As far as prices, I bought 20 boxes of blazer last month at the grocery store at 1.99 a box. It was the CCI made Blazer. :)
 
I'm finding quality 9mm reloads for as low as $0.15 per round online. At this point, I'm about to sell my 10/22 and buy one of those Beretta Cx4 carbines in 9mm, it'd be cheaper to feed!!!
 
I remember not too long ago when 500 round bricks could be bought for $7.99.

How do you define "not too long ago"? Early 90's?

I'm finally starting to see 22/LR back on the shelves, but prices are still ridiculous and it's not even the good stuff.

Remington Golden Bullets 550 Round Bricks: $27.95

Remington Thunderbolts 500 Round Bricks: $24.95

Federal Target Loads 325 Bulk Paks: $21.95

Actually those Remington prices are pretty close to the going rate before the panic. I'm actually surprised to see ammo priced that low.

I haven't seen a single round of 22 ammo at Walmart since January '13.
 
Funny, I'm still shooting 22 ammo I bought like 4 or 5 years ago for $14 a brick.

Guess 22 doesn't excite me much.
 
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Availability is getting better. But the trick to avoiding the stress and aggravation involved in finding it is to quit shopping for it in "need".

If you really NEED some, then go online or to a LGS and buy yourself enough to satisfy that honest need AND NO MORE.

Now you're set up to buy what you WANT whenever you happen to find it.

I don't shop for .22 any more. I simply make it a habit to walk through sporting goods in the stores I visit and see if they have any. If they do, at a reasonable price, I buy some and it goes in an ammo can at home. If I don't see any, no big deal: I keep moving to whatever I was shopping for in the first place.

No stress, no worries.

Sometimes I go quite a number of weeks between purchases. Sometimes I get lucky and find a couple sources in one day. Whatever.

The key is to make it incidental to all the rest of your shopping and not sweat it when you don't find any.

Last purchase? Walmart in Simpsonville, SC just a few days ago while stopping by for chocolate chip cookie ingredients: Three 333-round boxes of Winchester .22 LR. (Limit 3 boxes, so I chose these over the 100 round boxes of CCI).


And don't forget good sportsmanship. Nothing brings up another's spirits like helping one in need here and there with a box or two in trade or cash at cost.
 
It will follow the 9mm trend. Once available, 9mm have stayed around $15/50 give or take. Even Wally World raised their price of 100 round federal to $30. Recently, I saw the price drop back to pre Sandy Hook price of $25ish at Wally World. Supply and demand...
 
There are 10 factories in the world that make rimfire ammunition:
ATK/CCI - CCI, GemTech, Hornady and some Fiocchi
ATK/Federal - Federal and some CCI
Olin/US - Winchester
Olin/Australia - Winchester
Remington
RUAG/RWS - RWS, Norma, Geco and some Federal
Eley - Eley and some Remington
SK JAGD - SK, Wolf and Lapua
Aguila - Aguila and Centurion
Armscor
All of the factories outside the US ship to the US. The constraint is production capacity.
 
FWIW, everyone just plz do us a favor and STOP buying .22LR from scalpers, and once you've got "enough" on hand... enough should be 3-5 bricks @ most! Thanks, YMMV.

I SHOOT several thousand round a year, so my stash is sever CASES. Bought some this week for $30 brick and picked up some Wolf Match for $60 brick
 
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I'm seeing a lot of .22 at our local Academy every weekend. Actually passed on a 333 pack of Federal Target .22 for $17 this morning. They had 20 of those plus a lot of assorted different .22. I have enough bricks and I'm just buying CCI Minimags. They have it every couple of weeks for $7.49/100.
 
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Maybe if there were some good quality 22LR ammo available...
Dick's two days ago.... Cheap 500 bulk Rem Thunderbolt - $35.°°:

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(Ruger 10/22 for the search engines)

Note the light action screw torque.
 
"Why are we getting so ripped off..."

Gimme a break.

You're paying whatever value you contemporarily see as fit...

Or-

Not.


Get with market principals and stop complaining.


Or, maybe we should lobby Pelosi for Obama22?... ObamulletCare?

Todd.
 
I haven't seen .22 lr ammo at Walmart in years.

I'd hate to see what would happen if legislation actually threatened the ammo supply.
 
Wamarts around here never have any .22 LR ammo and many others have expressed the same. Even if they did it costs too much in time and gas to drive around to them to find out if they have any. I am wondering if Walmart has a contractual arrangement with some of the ammo companies and they are shipping them just the minimum, as a chain, that the contract calls for.

And that is EXACTLY the issue. With just ten plants making .22, and the major buyers having taken up most of the production, what is the fairest way that Brand can allocate purchasing?

Void the contracts and sell bulk to the highest bidder? We've seen how some vendors did that to the public. It's poisoned the relationship with the public, and the major ammo makers aren't stupid enough to do that.

What they generally decided to do - as explained in posts online by some anonymous sources - it so simply ration output according to the amount previously purchased. Since the plant couldn't exponentially increase production - many were already working about about the fullest capacity they saw profitable - they just sold according to what was already being purchased.

Walmart might be a big chain but they certainly were not shipping pallets of .22 to each store. And trying to order them wasn't going to happen. Not hardly - more like a case or two with their breakdown of ammo from their distribution warehouses. It's done on a Just In Time basis - they formerly saw those boxes of ammo sitting on the shelf for weeks - yes, weeks - before they sold. The system wasn't geared to seling bricks at all, and neither was production. When things went south on the AR market, tho, why the .22 crowd went panicky has yet to be explained.

There was NEVER a threat to .22 ammo or any talk of outlawing them or the rifles.

And yet what happened? OMG THEY'RE GOING TO RUN OUT OF AMMO AND I CAN'T SHOOT IT ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!

Go figure. Kinda like sympathetic labor pains, the NON-tactical shooters got their shorts in a twist and went into hysterics.

They are STILL spinning around and buying up $50 ammo all because they believe there's a shortage. Must be if every time they walk into BoxMart there's NO .22 on the shelf.

All because one or two guys ahead of them bought bricks, not boxes.

The talk about gas prices is a great example - the socalled "Gas Crisis" of 1974. I was on honeymoon with my wife and we saw people in Texas lining up on even/odd days, with cars stretching around the block. We just happened to need to fill up, got in the short line, and were immediately questioned about our license plate being the wrong number.

Out of a week of vacationing - it was the ONLY line I saw around the area. And it was in a Metro.

I'm going to suggest that people in large numbers are the problem, not the capacity of the ammo plants. They were quietly plinking a box a month when their buddies threw their aprons over their heads and started running off into the prairie - and reacted by doing the exact same thing.

I can't explain it any other way that to suggest it's reacting to a herd "instinct." It goes to some saying that the people are like sheep - and with this panic, it's hard to argue against it.

There is absolutely NO factual reason to think .22 was going to be endangered, come under regulation, or be scarce - and yet the result is that .22 remains so in many areas - while the AR's that were being bad mouthed for banning are now selling at record low prices.

And so is 5.56. You can certainly buy bulk 5.56 cheaper than high grade .22.

If the economics aren't what you like - if feeding a 454 short bed Chevy is getting a tad expensive - maybe it's time to change. If shooting expensive .22 isn't in your budget, maybe some other cartridge can be - especially reloading it. The prices drop even more substantially doing that, easily 50% cheaper.

Of course, primers and powder are still a bit hard to come by - because the guys who turned to that drove them up, too. There is, therefore, no way to escape that demand will increase price regardless. Like it or not.

If you don't like the price, don't buy. It's working for the basic problem child of the panic that started it off, the AR, and right now AR's are about as cheap as they can get. Which was said just a few months back, and they have dropped since then. I don't think we've seen the bottom yet.

And I don't think we've seen the end of the .22 shortage, either, because there is no shortage of gullible buyers willing to pay whatever it takes to get their ammo.
 
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