Why did everyone hate the Thunder 5 but now they love the Judge?
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Nicodemus38
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Looks really help sell stuff. Who wants to buy something that looks like a reject prop from blade runner?
410 is going to be severely reduced in velocity and energy in a pistol, why reduce power by giving it a barrel length thats shorter then the cartridge?
410 is going to be severely reduced in velocity and energy in a pistol, why reduce power by giving it a barrel length thats shorter then the cartridge?
Sport45
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I don't particularly like either of them. But that's just me.
22-rimfire
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I think they are all ugly. I prefer the orginals with the longer barrels. Being ugly never stopped me from buying something... just look at the Ruger Super Redhawk. That's ugly!
KJS
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The Taurus Judge is certainly unique looking. It definitely stands out having such a long cylinder to accommodate 3" shells now. I don't really have any strong feelings on how it looks. Sure looks like it would make a bad guy's day really bad, which I guess is the important part for a defensive gun.
Sport45
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The bad part about the long cylinders is that it will probably also chamber .454 Casull and maybe other cartridges that will turn the thing into a grenade. Not everyone reads their manual and/or understands how stuff like that works.
DeepSouth
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Yep
Me neither
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By far the Judge is not worthless. When using the gun as it was intended for, it works great. I own one and love the gun. With the 45 Colts, I get very good accuracy at 25 yards. But used in close quarters, I bet you would not want that gun pointing at you with any load including bird shot.
Instead of just saying it is worthless, please elaborate on your reason.
Instead of just saying it is worthless, please elaborate on your reason.
Eightball
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Let's see.....relatively expensive oddity from a little-known company that complicates the design of a revolver (manual safety) that doesn't really seem even the remotest bit ergonomic, vs. relatively normal-priced oddity from an internationally recognized brand that is somewhat ergonomic?
It is what it is.
It is what it is.
The Judge will not chamber 454 Casull or 460 S&W Magnum. There is a .454 sized tube in the chamber just past the length where a 45 colt case ends. So it won't take a longer piece of brass than 45 Colt (but it may take a 444 Marlin -- but that .429 bullet won't seal in a .451 tube).
mustang_steve
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Personally, I think the Judge would be a formidable HD revolver. The idea of it as a car gun honestly disturbs me a little. I wouldn't want to be exposed to the fireball that's obviously going to come out of the sides of that thing.
Landpimp
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no use for either
texas bulldog
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i find both equally ugly and equally pointless. i have no use for .410 in a revolver (or probably even in a shotgun, honestly), and if i wanted a .45LC revolver, there are much, much better options than the judge or thunder 5.
walker944
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I'm not a fan of either one of them. I do see lots of The Judge at gun shows, but don't know anyone who openly admits to owning one. I see no real practical purpose. It's an ugly gun to me.
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V1ROT8
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The marketing of the Judge has been very effective. As a personal defense weapon, the Federal 410 Personal Defense 4 shot ammo looks nasty.
chuckusaret
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I have a Bond Derringer .45/.410 and the Judge .45/.410, great conversation pieces at the most. Both are terrible to shoot and should never be fired without hearing protection at any time.
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Vern Humphrey
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This argument keeps popping up again and again, "I bet you would not want that gun pointing at you with (name it, from the .22 short to an airgun pellet.)"
For defensive use, the question is not if you would want it pointed at you, or you would want to be shot with it, but if it will stop an opponent who is shooting at you.
The problem with the Judge is, what is it for?
Concealed carry? Nope, too big and bulky.
Hunting? Nope, there are better guns for that.
House defense? Nope -- a real shotgun is the choice there.
Fiddlin' around at the range? Well, there you have me. If it's fun you want, I guess the Judge is as good as any.
highorder
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I recall seeing the judge sold as an anti-carjacking handgun?...
Maybe is was just some product literature or a commercial or something.
Vern Humphrey
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Mounted on wheels and equipped with a bumper hitch, it might be just the thing.
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