Why do Gun Manufacturers sell guns with phoney supressors?

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  1. george burns

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    What is the reason for this. I see it more and more on military and tactical type weapons. Like this one,http://www.slickguns.com/product/american-tactical-g2210gsg9sf-gsg-9-22lr-34-101-grips-black-fake-supressor-339-shipped. Is it done just as a sales gimmick, or is there a way for people who wanted to, could illegally turn this into a working suppressor.
    I would hate to think the second option is relevant, where one can legally own a suppressor in many states like FL, with a small fee.
    I guess it's for looks although it hardly makes it easier to fire the weapon accurately unless you get suppressor sights or a laser.
     
  2. CoRoMo

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    Because customers want to buy them.
    It's not.
    There you go. You got it now.
    Irrelevant.
     
  3. MachIVshooter

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    Same reason some cars have non-functional hood scoops.

    Be just about the same amount of work as starting with a solid piece of stock. Those faux suppressors have a hole through the middle, nothing more. The inverted ones that slip over the barrel to make a 16" gun look like a suppressed 10 incher have a larger hole.

    There are easier ways for people to acquire the components to make suppressors.
     
  4. Ranger Roberts

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    All of the fake suppressors I have seen over the years do not come apart. If someone really wanted to make an illegal one, there are easier ways like the silly oil filter adapter thing and the adapter for a mag lite.

    I bought a M&P 22 a while back that had a fake suppressor on it. I have no idea where the fake went, I probably tossed it. The reason I bought it was because the M&P had the thread adapter for my Spectre II.

    I think most people probably just do it for looks or maybe they like how the gun is balanced with a fake on it.
     
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    Regarding pistols, I guess just for looks. I think they look cool but if I bought one I would probably take the suppressor off and lose it immediately the first time I took the gun out to shoot.

    For a rifle like the GSG-22, a non-detachable fake suppressor brings the barrel length up enough that it doesn't require an NFA stamp as an SBR.
     
  6. Neo-Luddite

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    Fantasy or maybe familiarization--and usually you have a threaded barrel for sure. For display I suppose, too--kinda like the fake shorty display barrels that come with some for 'wall hanging' purposes to avoid needing to SBR stamp them.
     
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    In some cases, for example an over-16"-barrel Uzi, it's to make a long-barreled (non-SBR) gun look like a short-barreled gun with a suppressor. The fake suppressor telescopes over the barrel. Saves two tax stamps.
     
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    at least in the case of the tac tx barrel for the ruger 10/22 it is a shroud that allows you to effectively have an SBR. the shroud is wide enough to install a suppressor inside of it.
     
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    Seems stupid to me.
     
  10. Deus Machina

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    Purely for looks. If they're range toys, sometimes the extra weight up from would help with perceived recoil, but I'll bet that's a far-secondary reason.
    On things like the P90, it's because some things just look really awkward with a 16" barrel.
     
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    These are POS novelty guns.
     
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    Because their tacti-crap gun doesn't quite look stupid enough without one? ;)

    In seriousness, there is a market, and they are filling it. As to the conversion theory, I doubt it. The ATF has put the kibosh on fake cans that could be used for the basis of a real one. There was a MP5 look alike in .22LR, for example, that resulted in recall because of that.
     
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    "It looks cool." Nothing more.
     
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    The tacticool factor and the emergence of the mall Ninja. And it's a money maker very likely.
     
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    I once owned a Walther p22 which I actually bought a fake can for. That was also the time in which I had 2 ar15s and some other tactical looking stuff. It looked neat, actually gave the gun enough weight to shoot accurately, and directed most of the noise out the front.
     
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    Yup, just for looks. I'm surprised it is being done on handguns, that is really stupid IMO.

    I'm a form follows function person most of the time, but I could see it on a .22lr MP5 look-a-like gun where the long skinny 16" barrel would look pretty stupid, that's about it though.

    Adding length and weight to a firearm for no increased function makes no sense to me. I'm trying to go the other way most of the time, reducing length and weight as much as I reasonably can.
     
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    Why do people buy .22 semi-auto versions of sub-machine guns? Probably same reason.
     
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    Because the mall ninjas think those things make them an "operator"- just ask them
     
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    I have one of those because I bought a guys collection and it was part of it. It is very accurate which surprised me.
     
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    Some guns wear them to make them easier to get importation clearance (Beretta 70s were a recent example. Barrel was short, so the fake was pinned on.) Others to disguise the 16" barrel that the Uzis or MP5s didn't have. Still other times, they act as thread protectors and make it clear that the firearm is ready to wear the suppressor of your choosing.

    Guns should come with shrouded barrels as standard equipment. That way I could be a good neighbor, save my hearing, and sights would be designed to work with them.
     
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    Why?
    For poseurs.
     
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    Because people buy guns with phoney suppressors.

    What is the big deal? I don't buy pink pistols, but I understand why others do.
     
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    For the same reason people buy camo guns.
     
  24. CajunBass

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    To make money. Same reason McDonalds sells hamburgers.

    You can bet if they didn't sell, they'd stop making them.
     
  25. fallout mike

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    Well, the camo guns don't have "fake" paint on them nor is the .22 semi auto version of sub-machine guns shooting "fake" bullets.
     
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