Why do guys sell their gun when they get divorced?

[4 eyed six shooter]

Penholder, Don't get married until you are both at least 25, really get to know the woman you are going to marry and look past the emotions and hopefully good sex. If she still looks like a winner, after you marry, wait some years before having kids. This way you have a better idea if the marriage is going to work and you give yourself time to get a house, other assets and time to play.
Divorce really hurts the kids and keeps you strapped for up to 18 years with child support payments. Example: I was married for 10 years, got married young and had 2 kids right away, The wife was a housewife (didn't work). This was 14 years ago. At the time I was taking home $1,900.00 a month. I had to pay her $1,200.00 a month and her lawyer bills. Try living on $700.00 a month. If you get a second job or work overtime her lawyer will go back into court to get more. The courts don't care if you have to live in your car as long as the payments are made. After a time it went to $900.00 and finally $600.00 a month after I took he to court and proved she was living with someone else. I'm not try to scare you, only to make you aware of a few things that will give you a better chance of being one of the 50% who stay married.

Good Luck, John K

 

[jeff4570]

John K : A little trick I heard was to charge up all your cerdit cards untill you are technically worthless !! But buy stuff like gold coins and other valubles that can be hidden and NOT documented (guns sometimes can be documented) .
After your divorce is settled (remember you are worth nothing) sell the stuff !! The loss will be less than if you gave all your property/money to the lawyers or ex.

 

[mussi]

Ah, I love Swiss law. For all goods aquired before marriage, seperation of goods is mandatory. If you divorce, you get back what you had before the marriage, plus half of what was aquired in the marriage.

However, also here, we have child and housewife alimony, but the court does require the ex-wife (or husband) to work part-time after the kids have passed the age of 8.

 

[bogie]

Lawyers _can_ be useful. Prior to marriage, get a GOOD prenup agreement... And make sure adheres to your state's laws. Prior to moving to another state, revise/amend it if necessary. If he/she won't sign it, sorry.

 

[Justin]

You know, if reading this thread has shown me anything, it's that marriage is to be avoided and that I chose the wrong line of work. I should have gone into law. *sigh*

 

[RustyHammer]

Because no one will give you a dime for the old hag you're getting rid of!

 

[Ebbtide]

Do not get any additional jobs. It will end up costing you more in alimony and Child support.

Yes, good point! How could I forget.

A friend of mine was in the house framing business the year his wife left. He was going for full custody of the three kids and was working his butt off to pay the "lawyer". In the end, since he made so much money, and the woman always get custody of the kids, he was ordered to pay 1800 a month in child support. Needless to say business has not been good and has since began working for someone else.

 

[2nd Amendment]

Those saying to fire the first shot in a divorce are entirely correct. In mine I filed first, filed the restraining order, tossed her out of the house, kept the kid, moved all my stuff (guns first) back to the folks house, etc. She screwed up and told her best friend she was filing on Friday. Her best friend happened to be married to MY best friend...

The paperwork was served to her Thursday afternoon.

I wound up with all the property and she wound up with all the bills...and the kid, unfortunately. She'd have got the new Blazer but when the judge let her have it in the initial hearing I told said judge she'd have it totalled before the final hearing. She said that's fine, your wife will simply be without a car then. Sure enough, nite before the final hearing she punched it out on a telephone pole, drunk. If the local yocals had wrote her for DUI I'd have walked away with literally everything. Grrrrr.

 

[444]

is getting married even worth the risks

IMO, no. I have been divorced since 1989. When I got divorced, it really wasn't all that traumatic for me because I didn't really have many assets and didn't have any kids. People are always asking me why I didn't get married again, and my answer is that the risk is too great. I live in Nevada, gambling here is legal, so my analogy is easily understood. Let's say you walk into a casino and they have a game that looks like fun. If you win, you will have a certain degree of happiness etc. for the rest of your life. If you lose, it will cost you half of everything you have, you will quite possibly be required to continue to make payments for many years to come, and could cost you your freedom. Oh, and the chances of losing are at best something like 3:1. How many people would play ?
Today, I do have assets. The most important one as far as I am concerned is my pension. I am looking forward to retireing in less than 11 years. I will be 51 years old and hopefully will be able to enjoy a long retirement with more than enough money to live on, or I could start a second career of my choosing knowing that I can quit at anytime and knowing that I can do something I consider fun or rewarding since I don't really have to worry about the money. If I got divorced between now and then, she would get half my retirement for the years we were married. This means that I have to continue to work to make up for that. So, she would not only be stealing my money, but also my time; part of my life that can never be replaced. Another thing is that as a married man, I have to base all my decisions at least in part on what she wants. Where I live, how much I pay to live etc. are no longer my choice to make based on what I want or what is best for me. The biggest regret I have about getting married is that I lost that part of my life. I wanted to work where I do now, but she wanted to move. I worked my butt off to buy stuff that I had no interest in; drapes, china, silverware, two cars...................... After the divorce I was able to start the career I wanted, I was able to live where I wanted to live, spend my money as I saw fit etc.
I have been very lucky. I have a great life and have not had very many significant setbacks. The one significant set back in my life was the fact that I got married.
Most of the people I know have been divorced. I have heard so many horrible stories about divorces that I can't imagine how anyone could let themselves do it. On this board we discuss the pros and cons of various firearms and ammunition. If you heard terrible stories about one of the items over and over and over again, I seriously doubt that you would buy one. Yet, after hearing countless stories about how someone's life was ruined completely by divorce, people still can't wait to be the next one in line to be raked over the coals.
Another thing that is discussed on this board on a dialy basis is freedom. We watch for any infringement on our rights. We follow politics to ensure that our rights are not taken away without a fight. Marriage is all about losing your freedom and possibly having your rights taken away. Yet, in the case of marriage, we seem to think this is OK or at least voluntarily allow ourselves to be put in that position. Again:

 

[Smoke]

And now for the other side.....

I have been married for 15 years. We have 2 kids (boy 3yrs, girl 5months) 1 dog, no cats and a new house on acreage outside the city limits.

Marriage was rough the first couple of years, but very glad we stuck it out. Finding the right person can be tough. ANd I don't fault anyone for getting a divorce when warranted. But I feel sorry for those that are permanently soured on the experience.

My wife and I both work for the things WE want. She doesn't bother me about how much I spend on guns, Jeeps, other hobbies. I don't bother her about how much she spends on sewing machines, knick-knacks, or clothes.

The importance of finiding someone is finding one who shares your goals, views, wants and needs.

Whether you end up with a nest egg or a goose egg, depends alot on the chick yo marry. John L. (Chip) Merrill

 

[444]

Smoke, we all know people who have been happily married for many years, and this is a great thing. The problem is with the odds. Statistically, you are in a minority. And the stakes are very, very high. I personally have nothing against marriage. I love women. I enjoy spending time with women. But when you have the deck very heavily stacked against you, the risk to reward ratio tells me that getting married would be risking everything I have and now enjoy for a slim chance at increased happiness. As I tried to point out, in most areas of our lives we examine the pros and cons of the situation and try to make an intelligent decidsion. For some reason this thought process goes out the window when it comes to marriage. We make a poor decision based on things other than logic.
I have to make a very biased and blanket statement. Most everything that made America great, including marriage has been ruined by lawyers. They have made the risk of getting married what it now is. You used to risk emotional trauma, now you risk everything.
No one ever got married thinking they were going to get divorced. No one got married thinking this woman was going to rake them over the coals. Everyone thought that this couldn't happen to them. But the majority of them found out otherwise. Some said, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

 

[mtnbkr]

My marriage has been good as well. We've only been married for a year and a half, but we dated (mostly long distance) for 10 years prior. We never lived together prior to marriage either. However, we know each other very well. Also, there is no history of divorce in either of our families.

I wouldn't get married if I had any expectation of divorce.

Chris

 

[Carlos Cabeza]

Ha ! Women INVENTED marriage.

As I tried to point out, in most areas of our lives we examine the pros and cons of the situation and try to make an intelligent decidsion. For some reason this thought process goes out the window when it comes to marriage. We make a poor decision based on things other than logic.

!0 - Ring on that statement. most likely EMOTION, which men lack much of.
I have alway compared marriage to gambling at the 1000 dollar a hand table. High stakes and the odds are in favor of the house.

 

[444]

"I wouldn't get married if I had any expectation of divorce. "

Exactly; you and everyone else who ever got married thought the same thing.

I hope you have a long and happy marriage. I hope marriage is everything you ever hoped it would be and much more.

 

[Steve Smith]

Surprised this one's still here

Closing as OT...you guys drifted from the original post.


FWIW, I won't marry again either.