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Why do you need an assault rifle?

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maybe im am just stupid but what is a assualt rifle i believe it would have to be a rifle that someone used in an assualt but only that rifle maybe ! you could not call a rifle that looks like it an assualt rifle if so if we saw someone that looks kinda like someone that commited a murder we would be justifide in sentencing him to death just my redneck views anyway so i guess the reason you would buy this rifle the guy needed to sell it fast and you bought it real cheap :uhoh: !!!
 
I dont think assault rifles are necessary for civilians to own, however I WOULD NOT vote to ban them. Shoot em if you got em.
 
tell them a hunting rifle like a 30-06 or 300 mag is too powerful, your shoulder gets sore after shooting it more than a few dozen times, and the ammo is too expensive, and youare not some bloodthirsty barbarian planning on killing bambi, so why do you need a deer hunter's gun? you want a target rifle that shoots cheap ammo, and the ar-15 fits the bill perfectly
 
I'll take a pass.
"I don't need an assault rifle, I need a homeland defense rifle.
And I need the right to own a homeland defense rifle even more than I need the rifle itself.
Why? To defend my homeland from both physical threats and political threats to our liberties, as well as to train, share, learn, teach, compete, experiment, amuse myself and anything else I can think of."
 
a few other things to throw into the mix

Define terms. When I was on the high school speech team I competed for a few years in the 'discussion' catagory. One of the facets brought up there is that for proper communication, everyone needs to be using the same definition of a word.

So, have them define assault rifle. Then laugh and say what you are getting is nothing at all like what they describe.

A few things like 'the average deer rifle is nearly twice as powerful, shoots farther, and is better and penetrating bullet proof vests, some, like rifles designed to shoot elk, will go through the ceramic plates we issue soldiers to beef up their vests, this is so much less powerful, in many places it is illegal to use to shoot deer with because of fear you will just wound the animal rather than kill it.

No sir, this was not designed as a weapon of war. Eugene Stoner first thought it up as a light handy 'carry about the camp and the farm/ranch' and designed it to shoot the 222, a very accurate target and varmint round. The military one shoots 223, which is nearly identical...except it is much easier to find and cheaper to purchase


also, someone mentioned the veneer of civilization is very thin.

I once heard the phrase 'The skin of civilization is only 7 meals deep' Think about it. After you and your loved ones skip that many means, and some guy has got a can of creamed corn, what would you offer or do to get that can? Well, some folk would go a lot farther to get that can, or even just to make sure you are telling the truth about having no food.

How much slower would FEMA have to act or how much worse woudl the storm have to be to have had that exact same situations in New Orleans? (answer, not much)
 
I'd ask "Why do YOU need a college degree?"

You're just going to make more money than a bunch of poor high-school graduates. And you will probably produce LESS.

Society can produce the basic food, clothing and shelter without graduate and post-graduate degrees. An honest man or woman shouldn't need more than a high school education -- Right?

Post-graduate degrees are NOT mentioned in the Constitution. Maybe we need to control them.

And I am POSITIVE the Founding Fathers did not envision Assault-Law-Degrees or High-Capacity Law Firms.
 
Need? Do I NEED one?
No, but then you do not NEED the house you live in. You COULD live in a tent, so why don't I take your house.
Need. You don't NEED all the money you make, so why don't you give me a couple of thousand!
Need? You don't NEED all the stuff you own, so why shouldn't I have what I NEED from amounst your things (Karl Marx says that is the way we should do things)?
NEED an assult weapon? No, but if you really want to only own the things you NEED, be prepared to lose a whole lot of what you hold dear. And you had better hope that I am never put in charge of deciding what YOU need.
 
Assualt Weapons

Why not? On a proper range, they would be tremendously fun. I like things that go fast and make noise, be they farts, GTOs, .44 Magnums, or Lear Jets. I'll gladly fight anyone who says I can't enjoy these simple pleasures. I'd love to get my hands on one of those .50 caliber sniper rifles just for the joy of blowing up a cement block from a mile away, or whatever. After compensating for wind, elevation, and government bull****, it seems like a lot of fun to me. What ever happened to those neat red two inch firecrackers with the green fuses?

Or the 4th of July? These things fade as I grow older. Are you teaching your children their constitutional rights, and the importance of civic responcibility? If you don't, we loose these freedoms, because your children won't know we had them, and our progeny won't miss these rights.

War? Simple. Put it up for a vote, but only those who have to fight can vote. Simple. No more war.

Of course, you have to fire all the politicains first ... but wait - I am running on, so you probably should get a Moderator to move this elsewhere ..

wb
 
So who do we need 'hi-cap rifles'?

Same reason the cops do... to defend myself from bad guys and protect my family.

Cops have backup, I have none, so technically I need more firepower than the cops.

Cops have NO DUTY to protect me or my family. They can sit outside and wait for the S to HTF -- they lose nothing; thier main interest is to go home alive to their families. I think they call that a "standoff."

This is why infringment on 2A is sooooo morally wrong.





Now a little lesson -- I give you a copy of my car keys and say you're free to use my car any time. By doing this I have in no way given up my ability to drive my own car any time I need it. Rather if you and I both need it at the same time, I win... it's my car after all.

Our constitution grants power to elected officials. That power is held and retained by the people. The people to not forfiet their power when they elect someone. They can un-elect them and elect other people. Our representatives only have the power that we or the constitution grants to them. Anything more is usurpation and tyranny. The government can have no power that the people themselves to not posess, else how could the power be granted?

This is why gun bans are unconstitutional. How can cops/military have the RKBA when the citizens don't? Answer: When only the police have guns you live in a police state.
 
1. because osama reportedly lives and his followers are among us

2. I like to piss of brain sucking liberals in mass a scrues us
 
Why

The answer is because "Assault Rifle" is vaguely defined so as to ban as many guns as possible. I have said it once, and I'll say it again. The are for hunting...hunting street criminals and high criminals.
 
Why do I need an assault weapon?

Simple: The Second Amendment; the Original Homeland Defense.

You could also ask the yuppies why anybody needs a Dodge Viper with its V10 engine. Nobody needs anything more than a 1.3 L 4 cylinder in their Honda Civic, right? And nobody needs anything bigger than that.

But wait, we are America and have the freedom and opportunity to make choices and acquire luxuries that most other people in the world can't purchase. Isn't that what we are all about? Making America the greatest country in the world?

Throw patriotism right in their face.
 
I need all the guns I can get my grubby little hands on. I try to give them all a loving, good stable home. :what:
Assault rifles are really cool.:D That is why you should get one.:p
Seriously, if you want an AR, by all means buy one. They are very fun to shoot. I love mine. I bought everything and put it together myself, so I think it is really cool in that aspect. I also got to customize it the exact way that I wanted it by going that route.:p
And besides, there are a lot of things that we have that we don't need. However, we get them because we want them.:uhoh:
 
The subject of assualt rifles, and me wanting an AR for Christmas came up.

I was asked why I wanted/needed an assualt rifle. The only response I could really come up with was 'because I can', and 'target shooting'. Noone really thought that was a good answer...
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whoa whoa whoa! An ar15 isn't an assault rifle any more than a long-barreled, heavily choked, double barrel bird shotgun is a tactical shotgun. An AR15 is just a semi-automatic rifle (or carbine), which just happens to share aesthetics with the M16 and M4 assault rifles.

An assault rifle is not semi-automatic. So, you could've said, "I don't particularly want an assault rifle; I have no need for full-automatic, personally." If they could get through the confusion of terms, I'd follow with:

There is little fundamental difference between an AR15 and any other hunting rifle. What, exactly, makes it an 'assault rifle' in your (misguided) mind?

What you're failing to grasp is that they don't really have an issue with it being an 'assault rifle'. What they've got an issue with is you possessing a firearm at all, and a fear of inanimate objects (ie firearms).
 
The answer I usually give to non-gun owners, be they fence sitters or antis, is that while they find military style firearms to be "scary" looking, they are no more powerful and are often less accurate than their hunting counterparts.
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I saw mythbusters the other night for the first time, and I've been trying to figure out how to phrase a question on this matter so that it'd be both concise and easily answered by a simple demonstration. Something like, "I've heard that assault weapons are inherently more deadly than other firearms. Is this true?" but I can see how they may fudge it up through lack of marksmanship.
 
Quite.

"When arguing with a fool, you're playing on his home turf and are at a disadvantage."
- anon

Unless you know they know what they're talking about, it's safe to assume most people who use the terms "assault rifle" or "assault weapon" in conjunction with "why do you need one" don't know what they're talking about - . As such, you can't explain it to them because they don't even understand the question.

"If you put the wrong figures in, will you get the right figures out?"
- multiple ignorant politicians asking Charles Babbage about his Differential Engine

First make them aware of their own ignorance. Ask what an "assault rifle" is, correct the definition, then ask them why they would deny you - under penalty of imprisonment - a tool for defending home & country, why they hate you so much, and why they want to ensure their enemies prevail.
 
In case I need to assault something? Like the rogue water filled milk jugs that invade my backyard from time to time.
 
Same reason the cops do... to defend myself from bad guys and protect my family.

Cops have backup, I have none, so technically I need more firepower than the cops.

Cops have NO DUTY to protect me or my family. They can sit outside and wait for the S to HTF -- they lose nothing; thier main interest is to go home alive to their families. I think they call that a "standoff."

This is why infringment on 2A is sooooo morally wrong.
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God I wish more americans would understand this.......
 
My Top 5 Reasons for owning "Assault weapons":

1. Because we can
Yes this is a very valid arguement regardless of how well it is received by others. Just ask them why they "need" a fast sports car, expensive jewelry, name brand clothing, etc.

2. Excercise righst to avoid losing them
The more people that excersize a specific right then more that will stand up in defiance of removing that right. Strength in numbers.

3. Enjoyment
This can range from weekend prinking to target shooting to orginized competition. Tell people that you get the same joy out of shooting other get out of golf, bowling, sailing or any other number or sports/hobbies.

4. Defense
This can include defense for all perceiveable threats including a tyranical government. Antis are always saying that "Assault Weapons" are deadlier than other guns. If this is true then wouldn't they be better suited for defense when it matters most? (Win-Win Argument: If they deny that AWs are deadlier than other guns they take away antis most cherished argument against AWs)

5. TO PISS OFF LIBERALS
This is perhaps my favorite reason for owning military style weapons. Anything that gets treehuggers to soil themselves is a gift from God himself.
 
hmp32

What is an assult rifle? I don't think they exisisted before the 1990s.
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Assault rifle is the English version of the name given by the Germans to a class of fully automatic weapons produced sometime in the '40s.

One of our High Road historians can nail it down better.

The point is, ASSAULT rifles have certain attributes, like FULLY AUTOMATIC fire, and if any of those attributes is missing IT'S NOT AN ASSAULT RIFLE.

The AR15 is not fully automatic. It's very ergonomically similar to the military's M16 series of assault rifles.

There are many kinds of assault rifle. There are many rifles that have a similar outward appearance, and yet are missing one or more of the critical elements required to qualify as an assault rifle.

There are people -- educated people -- ambitious educated people -- politically motivated ambitious educated people -- who, realizing that most people can't be bothered to learn the difference, are quite willing to lie to their electorate, telling them that two rifles that LOOK similar are "the same" and therefore anything that LOOKS like that must be outlawed.

I can make you a car that looks very like a Corvette. I might make it in Germany, at the Opel plant there, and I might tell you that since we're banning Corvettes (too fast and dangerous, you know) we must also ban the Opel GT since THEY ARE THE SAME.

Please also see the Race Car Ban thread from a few weeks ago.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=234635
 
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