christcorp
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deano; I appreciate your passion. Definitely never lose that. But what is SUPPOSE to be and what IS are usually 2 different things. MOST people don't understand the constitution, the declaration, the rights in the constitution, etc... They don't understand economics, how a company or country exists economically, or debt. (That's why so many have so much debt on their credit cards). They don't understand politics, international affairs, etc... Believe it or not, most people don't even know how a law is made and put on the books. They don't understand our branches of government. Those who do understand some or all of these things, tend to think that everyone does. Just like so many naive people give opinions of foreign affairs with countries such as those in the middle east, terrorism, North Korea, etc... with the belief that the individuals who live in those countries think the same, believe the same, rationalize the same, have the same problems and concerns, etc... as we do. Many people in our country are just too ignorant and naive.
And that's what my whole point is about. Education! A person who is willing to let the 2nd amendment die and have all guns confiscated and outlawed has no concept or understanding that the same actions that are taken and legally voted on and adopted to remove all the guns, are the same exact methods that can be used to take away their right to free speech. But see, they don't understand that. That's why you educate them. But you're never going to conduct a dialog and persuasive argument with someone if you come across with the "BECAUSE I SAID SO" attitude. We didn't like it when our parents said it to us; and our PEERS won't respond well either if we use it on them. We can yell all we want that WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO CARRY A GUN. And guess what; the PEOPLE have the right; via their representatives; to AMEND the constitution. They can LEGALLY change that right. It's not like every amendment was written in the late 1700's. We've got quite a few of the amendments that were put in in the 1900's. Even during Clinton's time. You pee off enough people, and they can easily vote and have their representatives CHANGE the constitution. The people have that right.
But there's no conspiracy going on in the country as far as the average person goes. Those who may ask about your guns in general, may simply be curious. A friend of mine taught 19th-20th century history in college. He was the example of a far left liberal teaching college and not knowing the real world. It was all "Can't we all just get along" mentality. We were discussing pre-WWI military and government construction. He's pretty Anti-Military. I took him to a couple of really cool museums here in Wyoming where there's a lot of military history. After seeing the museums, he had a slightly different perspective on the military. He became a lot more interested in it. I went out and helped him get a couple of old military rifles in the 1903 style. I also got him a black powder simulated from the 1800's. He really appreciated the history and mounted them proudly. Then I asked him the ultimate question...... "When are you going to go and SHOOT THEM?" He said he probably wouldn't that he liked them for display purposes. I told him that I had a lot of military weapons. I mentioned that I thought if he fired some of them, he might better understand and appreciate what some of the soldiers had to go through. So I took him out shooting black powder; russian naggent, a friend's M1 Garand, 1911A1, Cap&Ball pistol, AK-47 style and AR-15 style, and a few others. The weight of some like the garand; carrying the ammo out to the woods; and similar got him thinking. After shooting for a few hours, he had a totally different respect for the weapons. He still isn't a gun owner/shooter; but he understand WHY I have guns; including for self defense. He now somewhat respects me having them. He isn't so afraid of the though of people having guns. And we talk a lot of philosophy about the constitution. I think he understands that the constitution is finely woven. If one right is challenged and taken away, all rights run the risk. I believe that even if he doesn't buy a gun for himself, he would stand up and support 2nd amendment rights. That is a win in our column and in my book.
Anyway, just wanted to point out that not everyone is as knowledgeable of the constitution, the declaration, our government, our rights, and how something that doesn't affect them at all (Such as guns) needs to be explained to them and not simply shoved at them. That will simply just have them shove back. And until our gun ownership numbers go from 80 million (Current) to about 200 Million; the Non-Gun owners have a much larger majority in this country. If they banded together, they could easily force their representatives and senators to write amendments to change, reduce, or even abolish the 2nd amendment. Remember; when the constitution was written, our founding fathers didn't even recognize blacks and women as being anything more than property. The fact that the constitution has been amended to correct that, easily shows that the constitution can be interpreted as being subject to time. And therefor can at times be amended to change or abolish certain aspects that may not be considered applicable to this time. We can't let this happen. We can't just stand up for our rights (WE SHOULD); but we also have to educate others that ALL RIGHTS are tied together; plus get more and more none gun owners interested in guns. Even if it's for hunting, sports, or protection.
And that's what my whole point is about. Education! A person who is willing to let the 2nd amendment die and have all guns confiscated and outlawed has no concept or understanding that the same actions that are taken and legally voted on and adopted to remove all the guns, are the same exact methods that can be used to take away their right to free speech. But see, they don't understand that. That's why you educate them. But you're never going to conduct a dialog and persuasive argument with someone if you come across with the "BECAUSE I SAID SO" attitude. We didn't like it when our parents said it to us; and our PEERS won't respond well either if we use it on them. We can yell all we want that WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO CARRY A GUN. And guess what; the PEOPLE have the right; via their representatives; to AMEND the constitution. They can LEGALLY change that right. It's not like every amendment was written in the late 1700's. We've got quite a few of the amendments that were put in in the 1900's. Even during Clinton's time. You pee off enough people, and they can easily vote and have their representatives CHANGE the constitution. The people have that right.
But there's no conspiracy going on in the country as far as the average person goes. Those who may ask about your guns in general, may simply be curious. A friend of mine taught 19th-20th century history in college. He was the example of a far left liberal teaching college and not knowing the real world. It was all "Can't we all just get along" mentality. We were discussing pre-WWI military and government construction. He's pretty Anti-Military. I took him to a couple of really cool museums here in Wyoming where there's a lot of military history. After seeing the museums, he had a slightly different perspective on the military. He became a lot more interested in it. I went out and helped him get a couple of old military rifles in the 1903 style. I also got him a black powder simulated from the 1800's. He really appreciated the history and mounted them proudly. Then I asked him the ultimate question...... "When are you going to go and SHOOT THEM?" He said he probably wouldn't that he liked them for display purposes. I told him that I had a lot of military weapons. I mentioned that I thought if he fired some of them, he might better understand and appreciate what some of the soldiers had to go through. So I took him out shooting black powder; russian naggent, a friend's M1 Garand, 1911A1, Cap&Ball pistol, AK-47 style and AR-15 style, and a few others. The weight of some like the garand; carrying the ammo out to the woods; and similar got him thinking. After shooting for a few hours, he had a totally different respect for the weapons. He still isn't a gun owner/shooter; but he understand WHY I have guns; including for self defense. He now somewhat respects me having them. He isn't so afraid of the though of people having guns. And we talk a lot of philosophy about the constitution. I think he understands that the constitution is finely woven. If one right is challenged and taken away, all rights run the risk. I believe that even if he doesn't buy a gun for himself, he would stand up and support 2nd amendment rights. That is a win in our column and in my book.
Anyway, just wanted to point out that not everyone is as knowledgeable of the constitution, the declaration, our government, our rights, and how something that doesn't affect them at all (Such as guns) needs to be explained to them and not simply shoved at them. That will simply just have them shove back. And until our gun ownership numbers go from 80 million (Current) to about 200 Million; the Non-Gun owners have a much larger majority in this country. If they banded together, they could easily force their representatives and senators to write amendments to change, reduce, or even abolish the 2nd amendment. Remember; when the constitution was written, our founding fathers didn't even recognize blacks and women as being anything more than property. The fact that the constitution has been amended to correct that, easily shows that the constitution can be interpreted as being subject to time. And therefor can at times be amended to change or abolish certain aspects that may not be considered applicable to this time. We can't let this happen. We can't just stand up for our rights (WE SHOULD); but we also have to educate others that ALL RIGHTS are tied together; plus get more and more none gun owners interested in guns. Even if it's for hunting, sports, or protection.
