Why does .40 S&W suck?

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I was working up some great hand loads for a .401 Herters back in the middle 80's and a guy asked me what I was doing?

I told him, he then mentioned he was trying to sell his 357 Herters and would I take it and some money for the .401 and the cases etc.? I did.

So the .401 went down the road.

I was reading this one time and so it is in this conversation now.

http://www.gunblast.com/Fryxell_Herters401.htm

Like the fellow mentions, an on going love affair. He calls the revolver ugly, Hmmm I don't think so and neither did Ruger :uhoh:

Not exactly the same, but close.

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why did'nt they make the 40 so it could have been fired in 41 mags with moon clips?
 
Because it was designed after the 10mm as a lite recoiling round instead of the 10mm being a out growth of it like the 38spl/357 mag. It is shorter and weaker than the 10mm but it is also a good caliber.
 
SLZY, "why did'nt they make the 40 so it could have been fired in 41 mags with moon clips?"

The question is; why didn't they base the 10mm (Father of the .40 S&W in case some don't know) on the existing .41 Magnum bullet? I've often wondered this myself, SLZY. Too easy I guess.
 
All things being a compromize...

I personally feel that the .40 represents a good one. I feel it has more to do with the actual bullet that's being fired out of it than caliber. To a point, of course. I chose a Speer gold dot for carry in my .40, and don't give it a further thought. I would feel good carrying a 9mm gold dot also.
I'm a fan of the .45, myself, but I carry a .40.
The Glock 23 being smaller than the Glock 21.
I would've been satisfied with a Glock 19 also. But I felt the .40 was a good compromise.
This is for a carry gun, of course. For a home defense handgun, the size of the handgun is a non issue. Then I'd choose a .45
It's not an issue if a caliber sucks or not, it's more about bullet choice.
Then you have to break the choice of caliber/gun to whether it's a concealed carry handgun or a home defense handgun.
For home defense it's either my Glock 23 or my newly acquired backpacking, canoeing, fishing gun. A Ruger Alaskan .454, loaded with .45 Colt +P Corbon DPX rounds, when it's at home.
This is my first post, but I got sucked into this thread. :)
So I haven't said hello yet.
So.....hello everybody.
 
This is my first post, but I got sucked into this thread.
So I haven't said hello yet.
So.....hello everybody.
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That must have been the sound I heard when I clicked on to this thread and read your post (sucking sound) LOL...
Hello ;>)
 
I have carried my trusty Colt 357 Lawman for way to many years so when my son in law (LE) got a .40 service pistol I gave it a try. Now I have an S&W M&P with over 600 rounds through it. It is less weight that the .357 or .45, easier to carry and the round is dead on in accuracy and a lot of fun to shoot.
 
Well maybe the people who say ".40 S&W sucks" have not shot it out of a SIG P229,P226 or a P239.

I really like the round and i think it does not get a fair shake when it comes to the "45 ACP" gang.

But hey what do i know I "like" the .40
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+1..i like it also
 
because the 45 acp is all you need, some say the 40 short &week is as good as the 45 acp, i dont belive it! :D csa
 
G95, how far back did you have to dig to find this thread???? Searched it I guess?

I don't have a .40, but nothing against a .40. It'll do anything a .45 will do and in a more compact gun. I like the 9x19, myself, though. None of 'em are a 10mm or my favorite, a .357 Magnum, though. Or, just go all the way and get a .454 Casull, that is, if you don't want a .50. Step up to revolvers if you want power in a handgun. :neener:
 
I wouldn't say it sucks, but like many compromises, it may not meet the needs of all the users as intended.

I would definitely rather carry a 40 S&W (I've owned a Glock 22 for 10+ years) than a 9mm, but in my mind, it's not as effective as a 45 acp. More snap than a 45 and not nearly as controllable.

Guns and cartridges are like flavors of ice cream. Everybody has their favorite.
 
NOTHIN wrong with a 40 u might be able to get something better but the one i have experience with is easy to shoot compared to a 45 and still has a lil more energy than a 9
 
Personally, I think the .40 S&W is a very effective round. So to say it "sucks" its somewhat premature. However, it is an odd, expensive and "snappy" round which I personally do not care for. Frankly, I prefer .45 ACP above all others. The .357 Magnum (full house) would be my second choice; not because of the lack of power, but the lack of control. The .357 Sig might be another choice, but still, I prefer the more "traditional" loads. Regardless, the .40 S&W hardly umm..."sucks."

Of course, I truly prefer a nice 12 ga. load, but sometimes the shotgun is not a practical solution to a given problem.
 
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.40 Short and Wimpy does NOT suck...it's almost a .45,in a 9mm sized package. I personally choose 9mm,or .45, but I wouldn't turn my nose up at a .40. Especially a nice BHP.
 
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