Why does .40 S&W suck?

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A man with a rifle pointed at you can for example present an imminent and unlawful threat of deadly harm at 100 or more yards.
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We've established that. You're debating a moot point, and you know it.

My actual question still has not been answered...

Of course, if your only desire is to see your own type in print, that would explain the hopeless dodging of my actual question...

As in, the one I really asked... Not the one that conveniently goes along with whatever answer you want to give.

There's no judge here Cosmoline... legal-ese doublespeak isn't going to get it.

You're dodging the question because you know what I said is the truth.

Under what other circumstances could a civilian legally shoot someone 25 yards away for?
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As in OTHER than a man engaging you with a firearm...

I'll clearly state that again, as it's obvious you missed that part of the question the first 2 times...

If he has a knife? Threatens you with his fists? Can you kill someone for shouting a threat at you from 75 feet? How about insulting your mother? Is that a legal kill?

The point is, unless you are BEING ENGAGED WITH A FIREARM...

there's not much someone can do to be an IMMINENT, DEADLY THREAT from 75 ft away...

And that's pretty much the bottom line.. Funny, I thought you were a lawyer.

I rest my case.

Yo. :D
 
.40S&W sucks because it takes up space in the ammo cabinet at wal-mart that was occupied by two cartridges that already worked fine and fit the autos i own:)

yes i know this thread is old
 
40 would be better w/o the snap i like the push of a 45 but since glock doesnt make a mid size .45 acp, and since beretta doesnt make a 94/90 (aka my wish of a 45 prototype) im happy with it
 
For me, I don't like the 40 for more subjective reasons. I just don't enjoy shooting it...I get more enjoyment from 9mm & the 45 acp. Now if I could find 10mm rounds at 40S&W cost, I'd have one of those instead.
 
I've always shot and really enjoyed shooting .22lr, 9mm and .45. I just never saw a point to the .40sw until I decided to get into comepetion and power factor became an issue. I don't reload so 38 super was out of the question.

Is it more lethal than .22lr, 9mm or .45acp? Hell no.
 
I have three 45's and a Beretta 96D in .40

The .40 most definitely has a sharper kick, however, that Beretta has never had any kind of failure to do anything besides go bang when the trigger was pulled. I put a set of wrap around grips, with finger grooves on the pistol and it seems much more manageable.

I'm perfectly comfortable grabbing that Beretta if I wake up in the middle night and hear something I shouldn't. Besides that, it has night sights.

I still dearly love my 45's and I love the .40 too.


Can't we all just get along?
 
Since when are police any authority on what's good and what's not? Come on now, I hear a lot of departments are switching from Glocks to M&Ps - they're obviously confused.
 
There's nothing wrong with .40S&W.

There's nothing wrong with .45ACP.

There's nothing wrong with 9mm.

There's nothing wrong with .357Sig.

There's nothing wrong with .45GAP.

There's nothing wrong with 10mm.

How do I come to that conclusion? Because I have yet to see someone willing to volunteer to stand downrange from any of the above.

Pick which one you like and practice with it.
 
Not biting on the .40s&w bug when it came out, I based my opinions on what I heard and it was mostly negative. However when I had the opportunity to put my G19 up against a friends G23 I was surprised to find that the prohibitive recoil that I had always heard about wasn't so prohibitive at all. Then it came to me, why not have a more powerful round in the same size gun? In the end I am now void of the G19's and own a G23 and feel it's the perfect hi-cap, size-savvy platform.
 
They all suck. Where's my Phaser Pistol??? :neener:
(although come to think of it, the phaser really didn't do Kirk or Spock a lot of good either most of the time)
 
I like the .40 cartidge,

I took a slab of thawed brisket and shot it with the .40 (150gr Corbon) and a .45acp (230 gr Corbon) had almost similiar results. I like all the popular pistol cartridges and own a pistol for each one (9mm, 40, 45) I feel that all 3 are adequate stoppers with 2-3 or less well placed hits.
 
Why does .40 S&W suck?

The .40 S&W is almost .45 ACP performance in gun frames
the size of a 9mm.

Premium defense ammo for 9mm, 40S&W and 45ACP is about
the same cost, but there are real bargains in cheap practice
ammo for 9mm and 45ACP.

I have owned 9mm, 40S&W and 45ACP and still own the 45ACP.
Why? I can shoot my 45 pistol in both Vintage and Modern
Military Matches.

Sometimes choice of calibers and guns defies rational reason.
 
because for every reason you say the 40 is better than the 9 is the same reason the 45 is better than the 40
and for every reason you say the 40 is better than the 45 is the same reason the 9 is better than the 40.
oh ya and its not a 10mm so why would you want a 40 when three better calibers already existed
 
I wouldn't say .40 sucks, but I sold all three of my glocks that were chambered for it because I personally like .45acp better, plus, 1911's are way better for ME than anything chambered in .40 that I ever owned. I also got rid of my 9mm Glock. I only own 1911's for autos except for a P22 and a bunch of revolvers in everything from .22 to 45colt.
 
I've never said the .40 S&W "sucked" at all but I've just questioned whether there's any real advantage over modern 9mm and .45 ACP JHP loadings in terms of terminal performance.

To the credit of the .40, most loadings I've seen seem to be able to penetrate and expand to my satisfaction, whereas not all 9mm's do this.
 
.40 sucks. Just because I don't have one..... yet :neener:


Really, none of the "major caliber" handgun rounds suck. I know I wouldn't want to get shot with any of them. They all do the job they were intended to do, provide fire until you get your hands on a rifle.
 
Ok. I've read the thread, and I have to say this.
Saying the .40S&W (or the 9mm, .45, 10mm, .357SIG, et al) sucks because it's a pistol round is, well, asinine. That's like saying a hammer sucks because it's not a drill press. They're two different tools for two different jobs.
Having said that, I'll say this -- for the best of the 9mm and .45acp worlds, I'll take the 10mm any day. Granted, the hottest loads I've driven downrange are the Winchester Silvertips and my 155-grain handloads at 1370-1400 fps, but I still don't see the recoil of real 10mm as a handicap for any shooter.
 
I don't think the Foh-Tay sucks. I just don't care for its "snappy" recoil in large guns and borderline abusive recoil in little guns. When I want to shoot lots of mad hornets I break out a Nine, and when I want to shoot cannonballs I go to a Foh-Tay-Fi'. ;)
 
40sw=10mm lite

I'd take 10mm over 40 any day for self defense. Having shot a G20 plenty of times I'm really not sure why so many people complain about the recoil. Sorry if this is too politically incorrect to mention but I've also had three different LEOs in my area specifically say that female officers were the only ones that had problems with the recoil for the 10. Go figure :rolleyes:
 
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