Why I like the 58 Remmie

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Elbert P . Suggins

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After a years time and 1600 hundred rounds of Hornady round balls in three Colts and 3 Remmies I would like to post my personal observations. I have a Navy Arms 51, Pietta 60 Army, Colt 1st Dragoon, Uberti 5 1/2 inch Remington, and two Pietta 8 inch Remingtons. I did have a Uberti Walker which I returned because of damage to the frame behind the wedge after using 2 30 grain Pyrodex pellets. All use .454 except the 51. After loading, shooting, and cleaning many times thru the past 12 months it has been my humble decision that I prefer the Remmies over the Colts. I think the balance of the 51 and 60 in "one hand" will never be topped but the short Remmie comes in a close second. I like to load the Remmies because you can remove the cylinder and use a table loading device. I use 30 grains of Goex with cream of wheat filler and just a tad of BB over the ball which is almost flush. And with 2 extra cylinders, I can reload in under 4 seconds. This I really like because I carry two capped cylinders in a handmade speed loader pouch. I CCW carry a SS S&W 642 most of the time but sometimes I like to take the short Remmie because I have total confidence in its performance, especially when care is given in getting the cylinders ready to load. And for me, poring Rubbing Alcohol down thru the cylinder does the trick. The high shooting characteristics of the Colts can be compensated for but I really like the POA and sights of the 58 which can be filed down if need be. To me, cleaning is quicker with the 58 by removing the trigger guard, cylinder, and grips. Hot soapy water, hair dryer, WD40 and Remmington Oil. I have totally disasembled only once 6 months ago midway thru my shooting with this process and no excess crud, corrosion, discoloration was found. I love the asthetic looks of the 1860 Army which even after the development of several thousand handguns is be far the most beautiful and balanced handgun ever made in my opinion. And for me, Piettas are on the equal with Uberti. This Bp sport of shooting these old revolvers has brought to me a new meaning in life. I have visited many CW battlefields and my Great Granddad fought for the Missouri Confederate Calvary and these tools of war are one of the most fascinating aspects of life I have ever come across. This is also one of the most interesting websites available to the reading public today. Thank you for your time.
 
Alright, dang it! I guess I'm going to have to break down and buy a '58... I know I'm bound to catch grief from SWMBO, but I'll blame it all on you...:uhoh::):cool:
 
I have a Uberti 58 Remmy and I like it a lot. It is very, very accurate and its fun to shoot. I have a few vids on Youtube of me shooting it. I hope to get another cylinder and a bench loader to make reloading easier. have you found a device for loading the primers on the nipples? I think the grease on my hands is fouling my pirmers.
 
What a bunch of comedians!

Elbert, 1600 rounds, WOW, you the man! Here I thought I was doing good shooting 500 rounds a year.

Arcticap, are you saying that Mrs. Howell is getting a bit thick in the hips? Do you find that the hammer spur sets to high on the R&S? I find it difficult to cock single handed.



Ginger!!!!
 
I like both the Remingtons & the Colts.

I started out with a original Colt 1851 Navy & then a Pietta '60 Army but I have to agree the Remington design is a close favorite for me because of it's ease of maintenence & handling characteristics Kinda why I have 3 & just 2 Colt model copies, both of which are with my brother ATM.

Like you I like my Pietta '58 with it's 5.5" barrel, has plenty of punch at resonable range when needed but very accurate with the heavy load I put through it & with over 600 rounds through it so far in a year it has proven it's self to be a rugged performer & easy shooter.

I'm glad that you like your Remington copies & look forward to hearing more from you in the future.
 
Yes sir, I keep pretty close count of my shooting number because of the empty Hornady boxes of 100. I kind of give up on the various cap dispensers because I like to use CC 11s and Remmie 11s and I give them a slight pinch and push them on by hand. My hands aren't greasy because I use a popcycle stick to dispense the bore butter. If I have time I firmly push the caps on tighter with a short dowel, especially the 2nd Generation Colt Dragoon which even 11s fit tight. I also forgot to include in my comparison a Ruger Old Army Stainless with target sights. Now this is quite the BP weapon as all of you fully know, but I still like the Remmie better. When you attempt to remove the Ruger cylinder you still need to grab a screw driver or coin to loosen the base pin on the loading lever and if you pull the assembly out too far it falls in your hand as a 3 piece Chinese jigsaw puzzle. Other than this and the terrible balance, it is quite the piece. If Josua Lawrence Chamberlain and his proud defenders at Gettysburg would only have had these for weapons they still could have defended Little Round Top. Most of that fight was 25-100 yards with single firing long guns. You all have a Merry Christmas.
 
the '58 remmie is a fantastic shooter.
And let's face it when you pull it out of the bag at the range everybody stops and looks.
It's just flat sexy.

AFS
 
lol you obviously have not read my range report on Walker versus Remmie. Though a Remmie is a good gun The true head turner is the WALKER
 
I've never had a Walker and never pulled one from the bag. I know both will turn heads.
I wasn't criticizing the Walker. I don't like them but that's just me.
Either produces the low BOOM and that fantastic smell with oodles of smoke to amaze the on lookers.
I just prefer my remmie.
To each his own.


AFS
 
I started with the Colts ('51 Navies & '60 Armies all in 44cal). Over the years I have gravitated toward the Remingtons: Ubertis & Euroarms. The Pietta '58s I had felt beefy and heavier handling. The Euros are much smaller in the grip and frame. If I had discovered them first I would have stopped there. The Remmies do three things I like: hold more powder, easily shoot conicals, and have fewer and easier to clear cap jams. The Colts are prettier, balance better, are easier to do reloads with, and are easier to clean. The Remmies gum up a little sooner but one drop of oil on the front of the cylinder/frame juncture frees them up fine. If I had to do it all over again I would probably get a pair of SS 5 1/2" barreled stainless Remingtons. As it is, I still like and shoot my assortment but have gravitated to the two makes of Remingtons when I shoot in a serious match.
 
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