Keeping the 58 Remmy Company

[Majes]

OK, so I know this is going to be controversial and filled with opinionated responses....

But, ya know Cabalas has the 51 brass frame navy on sale for $129.99. hmmm

Now there is a feller on youtube what has a brass framed pietta he claims handles the r&d conversion cylinder fine with gallery loads. I ain't so sure about that myself, in fact I was a little worried about my no hardened remmy with the r&d but it has proved to be just fine.

Beings there is no top strap on the colt 51, and it does have a brass frame normally I wouldn't even consider such non-sense. But....

I happened to have way too many cabalas club points and a feller here wants to sell me a 51 kirst cylinder for 50 bucks.

What you fellers think?

 

[Busyhands94]

maybe you could find a way to fit only 20 grains or less in there and fit a round ball. Maybe even wildcat the shell down to fit a lighter powder charge, I thing that would be OK. Just don't shoot any really super hot .45 Long Colt loads, that will probably just ruin the gun. Although, you could re-line the cylinder and barrel to .22 rimfire, that would be fine even in a Colt brasser.

you could use .45 Long Colt shot shell, that probably has pressures low enough to keep the frame from stretching. the shotshells they sell for pistol calibers generally won't cycle in the action and the recoil is nonexistent. You could probably find a way to shoot wax bullets, I do that in my cap and ball revolvers sometimes.

 

[mgmorden]

The Kirst cylinder for $50 is a steal. I'd hop on it.

As to the brass frame - I just wouldn't trust it. Even the steel framed guns with the conversion cylinders are only supposed to be used with very mild loads. Going to a brass frame gun - one without a top strap - just isn't wise IMHO.

If you save your coupons, Cableas often puts the steel-framed 1851's on sale for around $179. Catch that with a $25 off coupon and you can have the steel framed and safe version for barely anything more.

 

[Majes]

Thanks for replies, ya see I did already hop on the Kirst

The gallery loads this feller talks about is like 12 to 15 grains fff with cornmeal to fill the void. I tend to agree though, I don't think I will be putting it in the brass frame. But dang, surey it would handle 12 to 15 goex with a 141..... I think.

Guess I was just curious if anyone here was doing such a thing. I have only ever owned one Colt revolver so my experience is very limited. But it seems to me the lack of the top strap was the very reason the Remmies became so popular back in the day.

That plus the easy cylinder changes.
Guess I'll just be sat waiting on a good deal on the steel frame like all poor boys have to.

 

[MCgunner]

Me, I just bought a couple of spare cylinders for mine. For the price of the conversion cylinders, I can get 5 spare cap and ball cylinders. But, whatever floats your boat. I do handload, but my Blackhawk can handle more than just "gallery loads". My cap and ball guns are for...uh...cap and ball shooting.

I'm kinda tempted to get a .45ACP cylinder for my 5.5" steel Pietta, though.

I happened to have way too many cabalas club points and a feller here wants to sell me a 51 kirst cylinder for 50 bucks.

All the conversions I've found were more like 240 bucks. I would NOT pass on a conversion for that price. Hell, I'd be tempted to buy it even if I didn't have a gun for it, then go shopping for a gun. LOL

 

[mgmorden]

For me the allure of the conversion cylinder is in cleaning. I like my Pietta '58 Remmy, but I can't stand the cleaning required when I actually put BP through it. Some light handloads with smokeless means it can come out of the safe to play a lot more often .

 

[Busyhands94]

The reason I want one is so I can handload, and so my dad won't whine about how slow it takes me to load the gun for him. Oh yes, and I don't need to register it or anything. I love that!