Why is an Olympic AR-15 Bad?

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Okay, I know I'm going to get hammered with anti-Olympic gun sentiment, but I'm actually looking for folks to reply that have owned an unmodified Palmetto Armory / Olympic Arms AR-15.

Please share good or bad comments based firsthand experience, not just someone that has heard about Olympic. Each model may be different, so more specifically...

Are the early models from 1978 ~ 1981 any good, or not and why?

Fire away and thanks!
 
I've got several friends with Oly AR-15s. Go bang every time. They were a little rougher in some places than my Rock River, but as far as functioning, they work just fine.
 
what does palmetto armory have to do with olympic arms?
 
I have an Oly AR 15, granted it is a little rougher in the finish dept than some, but not all, of the other mans. It has gone bang every time so far. I would have no problem buying another one.

Robert
 
I think the greatest issue with the perceived quality problems is that so many Oly lowers were sold at a rock bottom price that they tended to attract folk building rifles with cheap components and then that rifle and it's reputation circulates around as a representative of Olympic Arm themselves.

Olympic is definitely not anywhere near the top of the food chain but I can tell once it's in my hands whether it was a lash-up of crap parts or a factory/shop gun.
 
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Mine goes bang every time, they are made only a few miles from my home.

I can't speak to long distance customer service, but if you walk into the shop and say "hey, I have a problem" they will fix you up quick as spit(I lost a detent spring changing some parts out).

I will admit that I am one of those guys that thinks a flipping AR is an AR though.
 
I have one with a free float quad rail, and a stainless threaded bull barrel. It is great! I have a few ARs and it works just like the rest of them. I got this set up from Buds for $744 out the door. Chambered in a 7.62x39. Its a cool gun that is very accurate, even with cheap ammo.
 
they made some cast receivers back in the day and had problems with them...now they can't seem to live it down...they have been in the AR game a very long time I would take an Oly over a DPMS any day
 
There was a guy at my range not to long ago with an Oly AR, and he was making everyone else look pretty darn bad. I mean with Irons all of his 50 shots or so were within an inch at 100 yards. No one was harking on him that all he had was a "lowly" Olympic Arms AR.

Apparently their barrels aren't chrome lined, which isn't good for corrosion resistance, but excellent for accuracy. Their pistol caliber uppers are supposed to be out of this world though...
 
I think the OP has a rifle that has some Palmetto parts on it, and thus he's mixing in the PSA name with his Olympic lower.

I'm perplexed by his "unmodified" comment -- PSA did not make AR-15 parts in the late 70s and early 80s, unless it was a different company that called itself "Palmetto".
 
I had an ml-2 that was an excellent gun. Needed money so I sold it. That thing literally shot .25" groups at 100 yards with fiocchi 40 vmax. The only problems I ever had with it was the heavy trigger and gas key that wasn't staked properly.
 
Lemme tell ya 'bout my Oly...

I purchased a new, complete Olympic Arms AR-15 in the early 2000's. I believe it was called an "Eliminator"; it had a flat top, a carbine length barrel, and a rifle length handguard. It was my second AR type rifle, having owned a Colt HBAR during most of the 1990's.

On picking it up from my FFL, the first thing I noticed was the was the gas block did not have provisions for a clamp on front sight contrary to what I had been told over the phone by Oly. Since I was going to mount a red dot on it, I let this pass figuring I could correct it later.

[Lesson learned: If a product isn't what you expected, especially when a company offers a return policy... pay the shipping to return it and re-evaluate your decision.]

First trip out I discovered two things: perfect reliability over 500ish rounds... but the trigger pins would walk out of the receiver. I figured a call to Oly would get me the correct sized pins sent out quickly. Except it turns out the pins were the right size, it was the holes in the receiver that were out of spec. They ended up sending me longer pins cut for circlips, which they charged me for, in addition to shipping.

[2nd lesson learned: If a product fails during a company's return window (Oly's was 60 days at the time)... SEND IT BACK!]

Over the next two years:

The bolt release broke/cracked.
The charging handle also cracked.
A screw attaching the muzzle brake cracked (seeing a pattern here), resulting in a bullet strike on the next round.

I had a machinist friend fix the muzzle brake (bored hole slightly larger to clean it up and re-threaded all holes/new hardware).

He also made me an offer on it which I accepted. Good Riddance!

2 months later he showed up to show me the bolt from it, which was cracked... but he was laughing about it.

Kind of a shame, in between breakages it was a very accurate little gun.

Ask me about my Dillon experiences... go ahead I dare you :evil:
 
I have had my Oly Arms AR 15 for about a year now. I have put several hundred rounds down range with it. I have not had a single problem with it. I will buy another one without regret.
 
I bought one in 1998 and it ran great until I lost it in a break-in. My buddy bought their plinker for $600 or so around 2003 and it was cast parts. his lower receiver cracked. In my mind S&W are a better value in the same price range in the sense that they are the same quality but higher resell value.
 
My Oly experience is from a complete upper: They sent me a barrel that wasn't the rifling rate I asked for and wouldn't shoot the 69-80 gr rounds I wanted. After struggling with it for one summer I sent it back which they replaced with the originally specified 1:8 twist. Other than the wasted shooting season, no problem.
That replacement barrel took me from NRA High Power Marksman to Master in 4 seasons and then a few more before the barrel shot out. The barrel has been replaced with a Krieger. This setup allows me to shoot Master scores when I pay attention to the game.
There is noting wrong with the Olympic upper I shoot.
YMMV and Good luck,

Doug
 
J_McLeod said:

How was your Dillon experience?

Too soon!

Heh, I'll wait for the next "Blueness is next to Godliness" thread for them. Yep, plural.

(Hint... a couple of them resemble my Oly one)
 
As best I recall, SGW (later Olympic Arms) was about the first maker of non-Colt aftermarket lower receivers for the AR. This was in the mid-70's, and they started out machining them out of solid aluminum billets (not forgings or even castings), with a lot of sharp corners and angles. All the other parts (barrels, uppers, etc.) were available as GI surplus at the time. I assembled several of these into complete rifles, and I remember that a lot of hand fitting was required since some of the dimensions were out of spec. These SGW machined receivers were also used by RIA and others for early full-auto conversions. Later on, the Sendra receivers came along, and they were light-years better. Then everybody got into the game.
 
I have one of their PCR rifles. No broken parts, fires every time and is as accurate as I am. Mine has a stainless barrel, so I guess it's not chrome lined. No complaints at all with this gun.
Frank
 
I dont have a pic of my oly but here is a stock picture and where I purchased it through. Have had it a number of years and never had any problems with it.
olympica1.jpg
 
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