Why not "pass it on" now? What do you think?

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The point is that gun grabbers are working hard to destroy the gun culture of our nation. On their side is economics, which is an obstacle that distances non-gun owners from making the step into the sport.

Shooting isn't a poor-man's sport.
 
FireInCairo said:
Fair enough. It does seem a lot of people here do get it, and others will agree. Really, for people with a safe full of firearms, it's just old iron collecting dust and has no real impact on sustaining the civil liberties for the next generation just sitting there. That's my point.

At the least, a 10/22 is about $250 new, or maybe as low as $150 used. I picked up a donor rifle with a trashed barrel for $80 a couple months ago, and a new take-off barrel from a member here for $40. Once I swap some parts, I'll have a functional rifle for about $120.

I'm not well-off by any means, but to some guys who are more financially secure, $120 or $250 means almost nothing. It's a bad day in the stock market, and it can be made up next Wednesday when things rebound.

For someone that I thought it might make a difference to, I'd donate a 10/22 if I thought it would draw a new shooter in and strengthen our rights. Not because someone expects a "hand-out", but because they might not even know what they don't know. I had the good fortune of a father who introduced me to shooting with a 10/22 before I could write my own name. He gave me a single barrel .410 for my 11th birthday. Not everyone has that, and someone has to take up the slack.

I wouldn't give up a family heirloom, but would it really hurt many of us to track down a decent rimfire rifle, get it zeroed, and pass it on? I doubt it.

USAFVet said:
really don't see how just handing a gun, ammo and even the skills down to the next generation is going to preserve anything other than the entitlement mentality, of which we already have too much.

No offense, but there is way less "entitlement mentality" than many think there is.
What there is in my generation is a lot of people who were sold a fantasy by a system that was set up with good intentions, but ultimately twisted to enrich administrators at the expense of people who actually may have worked very hard for a shot at the so-called American Dream. We find ourselves in the educational equivalent of an "arms race" where one must somehow acquire an ever-expanding list of educational "qualifications" to stay competitive, but where the chance to ever actually come out ahead is increasingly fleeting. The days of showing up with the basics, working hard, proving yourself, and being able to earn a real chance seem lost forever.

But I suppose that's a whole other discussion.

I can tell you one thing though - if you don't pass down the tools and skills to the next generation, you're certainly not going to preserve anything. All the history and rhetoric in the world pale in comparison to the ability of a 10/22 and a sunny afternoon to bring a new shooter into gun ownership. I've done it three times myself - all with "liberals" - and all three now own their own guns.

Along with the cost of action, perhaps y'all need to consider the cost of inaction. Maybe it doesn't matter to some who are nearing the end of their days, but I'm not nearly there yet, and it matters to me. Perhaps people like myself are the ones who have to shoulder this burden if we want this right to stay in the hands of The People for another century or two.
 
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I have two daughters and two grandaughters. A SIL and one grandson.

I have plans to leave each of them a SD firearm with ammo by the end of this year. I will keep a couple for myself yet, and anything left over (not much) will be sold to help supliment my SS income.
 
The point is that gun grabbers are working hard to destroy the gun culture of our nation. On their side is economics, which is an obstacle that distances non-gun owners from making the step into the sport.

Shooting isn't a poor-man's sport.

I've sorry but I'm not buying that. Gun are cheaper today than ever.

Young people simply have different priorities. Twenty somethings I know are paying $100-$120 a month for a cell phone and that much or more for cable TV. Don't tell me they couldn't spend $6 for a box of 12 ga shells or $12 for a box of 9mm if they were truly interested in shooting. Plenty would rather play first person shooter video games than shoot a real gun.
 
JSH1 said:
I've sorry but I'm not buying that. Gun are cheaper today than ever.

Young people simply have different priorities. Twenty somethings I know are paying $100-$120 a month for a cell phone and that much or more for cable TV. Don't tell me they couldn't spend $6 for a box of 12 ga shells or $12 for a box of 9mm if they were truly interested in shooting. Plenty would rather play first person shooter video games than shoot a real gun.

On cell-phone bills, I have never had a land line. My cell phone is my only phone, and it's the only phone I've ever had. My bill is about $70 a month. I've used my cell phone to interview for several jobs, and I've gotten three of them with that number (including the one I have now). Without a laptop and internet access for a distance interview (via skype or something like it) and a cell phone (which travels with me even when I've had to take temp jobs in other states just to try and build whatever career I could), I would have no chance at being employed in the modern world. In many cases, you simply couldn't do what we have to do with just a land line.

And many new people playing first person shooter games might very much like to try out a 1903A3 or M-4 for real - but how can they if they're never invited along? If they weren't fortunate enough to be born in a rural area, they may not even know anyone with an old bolt action JC Higgins .22LR to try out. I'm willing to foot the bill for the first $12 worth of 9mm or .22LR if it sets a chain of events in motion that brings a new (voting, living, breathing) gun owner into the mix.

Think of it like this - you might spend $35 on a yearly NRA membership. If you spent an equal amount bringing three new shooters into our ranks, how much stronger might we be?

Even if you fail 2/3 of the time, even bringing one new shooter in would double our numbers. I'll take double the number of angry letters being sent to congressmen every single time, and I'll also take the technology skills of younger people who can figure out how to better use those tools to help preserve our rights. I'll take any new skillset I can get - there is no room for looking down our noses at any ally who brings something new to our side.
 
On cell-phone bills, I have never had a land line. My cell phone is my only phone, and it's the only phone I've ever had. My bill is about $70 a month. I've used my cell phone to interview for several jobs, and I've gotten three of them with that number (including the one I have now). Without a laptop and internet access for a distance interview (via skype or something like it) and a cell phone (which travels with me even when I've had to take temp jobs in other states just to try and build whatever career I could), I would have no chance at being employed in the modern world. In many cases, you simply couldn't do what we have to do with just a land line.

I haven't had a landline since 2002 except for a couple years when the state of Alabama required that I have one to get a business license. I'm not complaining about cellphones, I'm complaining about spending stupid amounts of money on one. I have a Nokia Lumia 925 that I got 60% off because it was 9 months old and the next great thing had come out. My service is with Cricket (which is wholly owned by AT&T and uses the AT&T network) I have 5 people on a group plan for $100 per month so that is 5 people for what most of my junior engineers were paying $100 a month for.

Again, different priorities. It seems some people have to have the latest iphone with AT&T or Verizon service and are more than willing to pay the price to have that phone.


Think of it like this - you might spend $35 on a yearly NRA membership. If you spent an equal amount bringing three new shooters into our ranks, how much stronger might we be?

I have taken people shooting. Some like it, some don't, some aren't interested in trying even with me supplying the guns and ammo.

One was a natural and was hitting 80% of the clays the very first time he held a shotgun. 20 clays in we switched to doubles and he was hitting the both. Never seen anything like it.
 
No offense, but there is way less "entitlement mentality" than many think there is.
Not in my experience, but each of us will have different examples.

What there is in my generation is a lot of people who were sold a fantasy by a system that was set up with good intentions, but ultimately twisted to enrich administrators at the expense of people who actually may have worked very hard for a shot at the so-called American Dream.

Which generation is that? Seems to me that you just described my grandfathers generation, and he just turned 84.

Every generation since has bought into the lie that government is there to provide for you, with Free Education, Free Housing, Free Food, Free Phones, Free Healthcare, Free everything but the market, which they work tooth and nail to restrict. The younger generation, kids in their teens and early 20's, have lived their entire lives with the promise of more stuff for free, the next hand out and the latest and greatest technological do-it-all gadget. They get the gadget to do it all so they don't have to. Despite having role models who work for what they have, these kids can't see past their phones long enough to realize that everything comes at a price.

We find ourselves in the educational equivalent of an "arms race" where one must somehow acquire an ever-expanding list of educational "qualifications" to stay competitive, but where the chance to ever actually come out ahead is increasingly fleeting. The days of showing up with the basics, working hard, proving yourself, and being able to earn a real chance seem lost forever.

Meh, it depends on what skills you actually have. As an industrial machine mechanic, with a background initially in aviation, I have a marketable skill set that can't be replaced by a internet server, robot, or call center in India. If you have no marketable skills, you are essentially good for only unskilled work. That's a dime a dozen, with low wages commensurate to skill level.

If you have a skill set marketable to an employer, you absolutely can move up by working hard and proving yourself. I've gotten over $5 an hour in pay raises in the last year alone. Might not be much to some, but it cements me in a very comfortable financial position as long as I make smart financial choices.


I can tell you one thing though - if you don't pass down the tools and skills to the next generation, you're certainly not going to preserve anything.

Something you didn't earn is not something you tend to respect. I see this in the entitlement mentality all the time. "Oh, I cracked the screen of my $600 iphone. Oh well, not like I paid for it." Only when mom and/ or dad refuse to foot the bill does it become a problem. Without the hard work and sacrifice many of us grew up with to instill a sense of gratitude, everything is taken for granted.

I didn't really grow up with guns. No one gave me anything, unless you include the M-16A2 I carried into Iraq, and I didn't get to keep that. I bought my first rifle, ammo, optic, zeroed it myself. I bought my first shotgun and handgun, too. It wasn't til I had nearly filled my first gun cabinet that I was gifted a family heirloom.

All the history and rhetoric in the world pale in comparison to the ability of a 10/22 and a sunny afternoon to bring a new shooter into gun ownership. I've done it three times myself - all with "liberals" - and all three now own their own guns.

I shot my first rifle, quite possibly a 10/22, in Boy Scouts. It didn't stick. I don't recall if there was any discussion regarding the history or purpose of the 2A, or if I would have even cared. I've introduced new shooters to the sport, even gotten a couple CPLs in their hands. But what I didn't do is buy them a gun, take them shooting and call it a day. If they enjoyed themselves, let them work for their own guns, just like I did. Let them have a reason and a purpose to motivate them to do it for themselves, which I find far too lacking in this younger generation.

Along with the cost of action, perhaps y'all need to consider the cost of inaction. Maybe it doesn't matter to some who are nearing the end of their days, but I'm not nearly there yet, and it matters to me. Perhaps people like myself are the ones who have to shoulder this burden if we want this right to stay in the hands of The People for another century or two.

Whose talking about inaction? There is a pretty wide gap between buying someone a gun as a gift to introduce them to shooting, and choosing to instill a work ethic with a goal and a reward for hard work. Give a man a fish he eats for a day, teach a man to fish he eats for a lifetime. Teaching a man to fish does not, in my opinion, include buying him a fishing pole, reel, line of various test, and all the myriad accouterments that tend to be associated with fishing. Whoever said shooting is not a poor mans sport, but thinks fishing is is kidding themselves.

Refusing to buy or give someone else a gun is a far cry from inaction. I am grateful to those who taught me a work ethic rather than instant gratification. I'm grateful to those who taught me a skill rather than handed me a tool without the knowledge of when, where or how to use it. I'm grateful that I can share knowledge freely and willingly rather than take it to the grave. But I'm also not naive. I've seen how little people care and respect gifts as simply material objects to take up space. I know very few people who'd rather spend a day at the range or on the lake or in the woods than sitting in front of a TV or a computer. Personally, I'd rather change my own oil in my cars rather than take it to some other guy. I'd rather do my own maintenance, both preventative and repair on my vehicles, my house, my guns, etc. when I can and my ability is suited to the task. I've been asked why I bother when there's an oil change place in town. This generation doesn't have a sense of pride for their own hard work, for their accomplishments. Manual labor is looked at as foolish and a waste of time, rather than a source of pride. What they don't realize is that often, that extra few dollars saved by doing it myself usually ends up funding something they want.

But this isn't just about my kids. I see it with some of my coworkers, too. Grown men and women who are, for lack of a better term, brainwashed Ozombies.
 
The average gun owner is above 50.

In other words, gun ownership is shrinking, not growing!

Your opinion is not supported by facts. The reason the age of the average gun owner in rising is because we are living longer. Look at these figures from the Social Security Administration of number of Americans 65 and older;

1900; 3.0 million
1910; 3.9 million
1920; 4.9 million
1930; 6.7 million
1940; 9.0 million
1950; 12.7 million
1960; 17. 2 million
1970; 20.9 million
1980; 26.1 million
1990; 31.9 million
2000; 34.9 million

http://www.ssa.gov/history/lifeexpect.html

You are also ignoring the rise in firearm ownership by women;

From a article in USA Today 9/28/11;

"Based on polling research and gun-sale statistics, an estimated 15 million to 20 million women in the United States own their own firearms."

http://www.today.com/id/44690575/ns...some-million-us-women-pack-heat/#.VZp9yfMo5LM

Other parts of your argument is equally flawed but I will ignore them.
 
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I'm with the "it isn't valued unless it is earned" camp, but I don't think money is the only currency in this discussion.

I don't know anything about Aarond but it seems to me that he may be on the right track. He is teaching people to shoot, and some of them he is gifting with guns. It isn't an entitlement and the students aren't there because they want a freebie. It is something he chooses to do on a case by case basis. If I was guessing, I would guess the people Aarond is gifting are exactly the people he thinks are most likely to spend their own money to buy. In other words the gifts are a recognition of something earned. I assume...as I said I don't really know.

I don't see money as the main thing keeping young people away from shooting. To me it looks like a combination of some of the same things that keep me from shooting as much as I want (lack of easy access to pleasant places to shoot, the high cost of hunting private land, lack of shooting as a common hobby amongst peers), plus perhaps a combination of helicopter parents, conditioning to expect organized group activities, and a feeling that career success is dependent on previously unheard of levels of education. I don't see where handing off a Mosin or three will overcome those issues.

If we really wanted to do something we would start cooperative, membership driven, shooting clubs that expand with the membership. There is an archery club near me that started with one range. They now have four or so and are actively working financial angles to open more, all member driven. Rather than closing to new members and having a waiting list they have members out clearing lanes and building target stands to increase capacity. Contrast that with most gun clubs.
 
You need more than one data point to show a trend. Also, the average says nothing about distribution among those of different ages.

Otherwise, I like your point!
 
I don't think the gun ownership is shrinking or dying.

I think hunting is somewhat on the decline unfortunately.

I agree that the hardest aspect of firearm ownership is finding a place to shoot/practice.

But women are the fastest growing demographic for shooting, we are the closest to nationwide CCW, and shooting sports such as 3gun/sporting clays/etc are on the rise.

Also, the average life span is increasing which should make the age of the average gun owner increase as well

But I like the pass it on movement...if we dont, who will?

-Matt S.
 
If we don't know how many guns are in private hands or how many gun owners there are, where did an average age of 50 come from?
 
I am in a favorable position,,,

I am in a favorable position,,,
I work in a student computer lab at a state university.

I am surrounded by student workers and students who need tech help.

Every semester I get a half dozen new faces to work with,,,
Several of them have gone shooting with me.

All of them know that it's an open invitation,,,
All they have to do is ask and buy some ammo at Wal Mart.

I don't think it's a question of money,,,
As much as it being a question of opportunity.

I live in a semi-rural area,,,
It's difficult to find a place to shoot.

Gun ownership might not be going down,,,
But finding a convenient/affordable place to shoot is difficult.

The days when you could take the .22 to the river are gone,,,
And the number of state maintained public ranges is shrinking.

I joined a rifle & pistol club with a nice outdoor range,,,
It's only a 25 minute drive from my work.

I can shoot 365 days a year,,,
And there are no additional range fees.

If it weren't for that I would have to pay a range fee,,,
There are two ranges within reasonable distance,,,
But they ask $10.00 and $15.00 per day.

That's pretty danged expensive for the casual shooter.

So to go and shoot just 50 rounds of 9mm,,,
The cost is going to be at the very least a 20 dollar bill.

Aarond

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I've sorry but I'm not buying that. Gun are cheaper today than ever.

Young people simply have different priorities. Twenty somethings I know are paying $100-$120 a month for a cell phone and that much or more for cable TV. Don't tell me they couldn't spend $6 for a box of 12 ga shells or $12 for a box of 9mm if they were truly interested in shooting. Plenty would rather play first person shooter video games than shoot a real gun.
You don't understand what most people under 40 are actually dealing with. A poster above touched on it some, which is part of a larger scheme to control people through debt. I've got an advanced degree, and the debt that comes with one, too.

Consider anyone who had a modicum of credit debt, but good interest rates on their cards because they're responsible.

Do you remember what happened in 2011? O changes the law for the betterment of everyone, oopsie, it doesn't go into effect for a year. So what do the card companies do? They immediately slam everyone with 29% interest rates for no reason, but that they could!

The point of this movement is to get people to spread the gun culture so it continues another generation and beyond.
 
If 20% of the population is buying 70% of the guns (this is just as an example to prove a point), and that 20% are older and a part of a dying culture, it's clear what will happen when those people pass away.

The culture will die with the ones who adhered to the culture.

This is why the media and the public schools have worked so hard to demonize guns. They're patient, they will wait until a generation dies off to get complete control.

PASS IT ON!
 
Your opinion is not supported by facts. The reason the age of the average gun owner in rising is because we are living longer. Look at these figures from the Social Security Administration of number of Americans 65 and older;

1900; 3.0 million
1910; 3.9 million
1920; 4.9 million
1930; 6.7 million
1940; 9.0 million
1950; 12.7 million
1960; 17. 2 million
1970; 20.9 million
1980; 26.1 million
1990; 31.9 million
2000; 34.9 million

http://www.ssa.gov/history/lifeexpect.html

You are also ignoring the rise in firearm ownership by women;

From a article in USA Today 9/28/11;

"Based on polling research and gun-sale statistics, an estimated 15 million to 20 million women in the United States own their own firearms."

http://www.today.com/id/44690575/ns...some-million-us-women-pack-heat/#.VZp9yfMo5LM

Other parts of your argument is equally flawed but I will ignore them.
I meant to respond to you with my last post.
 
You don't understand what most people under 40 are actually dealing with. A poster above touched on it some, which is part of a larger scheme to control people through debt. I've got an advanced degree, and the debt that comes with one, too.....

Fire,

Whoa a minute. Take a deep breath.

The original premise is a good one. Share what you have and what you know and love with others. That's always good advice and many here have been doing just that since way before you were in grad school.

By the way, if there was a scheme to control you through debt, you fell for it solidly apparently. Did someone really twist your arms, legs and mind to get you to spend and borrow your way to servitude, or did you decide to play the game as presented? Another By the way... While I agree that there is way too much indebtedness among people, both young and old, I put the responsibility squarely on the individuals choosing their path. Someone wasn't paying attention during Econ 101. Interest, the Eighth Wonder of the World

Anyway, your idea of involving others is sound even if not original, and I think that your conclusions about the current state and future outlook of our citizens participation are speculative as well, but that may modify in time also.

All the best!
 
You don't understand what most people under 40 are actually dealing with.....

I'm 37.

Back to my original statement. It isn't cost that is keeping younger generations from shooting. If they wanted to shoot most have the financial means to do so. Shooting may require adjustments to other parts of their budget but that is life in the real world.
 
JSH1 said:
Back to my original statement. It isn't cost that is keeping younger generations from shooting. If they wanted to shoot most have the financial means to do so. Shooting may require adjustments to other parts of their budget but that is life in the real world.

I agree with the poster above who noted how difficult it's getting to find a safe place to shoot in some areas. Just 15 years ago there was plenty of unoccupied ground within walking distance where I could hike to with a .22LR and shoot until I got tired. It's much harder to do now. The places I used to shoot have disappeared or are no longer safe. I belong to two sportsman's clubs to use their ranges when I'm in the area, and one of the benefits of that is that I can bring a guest.

So maybe cost alone isn't the only deterrent, but if you've never even been shooting, how likely is it that you'll even know where to look to find a place to shoot?

The idea of passing it on may be partly financial, but the hope would be that it would become self-sustaining. But the idea of being open and being willing to mentor when an opportunity arises is even more important. Nobody's advocating that you should walk into the local Walmart and order a round of 10/22's for the entire store. But if I did know someone who'd shown some interest, gone to the range with me a few times, etc. - I'd consider kicking something in to help that person get started.

IIRC, you said before that you'd first shot in a boy scout / cub scout setting, and that it didn't make much difference to you as a kid. When I've introduced college students and even people in their thirties with a 10/22 - some of them even moderately anti-gun to start - it's been far more effective than anything else in helping them understand what we are about.

I think your personal opinions are that young people don't value anything, so I doubt that anything could be said to sway you. But my experience is that by the time the fog starts to clear around the age of 22, some may be ready to think about things with a little more depth. Some won't. Some will go through their entire adult lives with a level of intelligence comparable to a root vegetable. But we can't use them as an excuse to just not bother trying.

Well, maybe we can. I'd imagine that if we don't do anything, things will probably become more restrictive, but laws with grandfather clauses will allow us to keep our 15 round Glock magazines and whatnot. Then when we die out, the 2nd Amendment will just gradually die out with us. We won't really miss it, but our society will go on not even knowing what it has lost.
 
Unfortunately, I think Goon said it all,,,

Then when we die out, the 2nd Amendment will just gradually die out with us. We won't really miss it, but our society will go on not even knowing what it has lost.

Older pharts like me (born in 1951) grew up with decent gun laws,,,
But we also grew up in the era of gun laws becoming more and more restrictive.

My point is we experienced the change and didn't like it.

Kids who grew up with restrictive gun laws can't understand the freedoms they have lost.

It's not just this generation of kids,,,
But all generations who grew up in a time of change.

When I tell how I took a Trapdoor 45-70 to school for a report on George Custer,,,
These kids just smile and miss the point of how that was a better time.

I've not given up completely on these young kids I work with,,,
I still take the ones who show interest to my range.

And I have two oldie-but-goodie 22 rifles,,,
That are just waiting for new owners.

But in the long run I am becoming tired,,,
Tired of the fight and the angst it causes me.

If the youth of today don't think 2A rights are important,,,
Who am I to tell them they are doomed to be servants of the government.

I do what I can because it's enjoyable to me to do so,,,
And I do hope it makes a difference in their minds.

But if it doesn't and 30 years from now,,,
They allow the 2nd Amendment to be repealed,,,
I'll be long gone and won't be affected by it in any fashion.

Aarond

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So maybe cost alone isn't the only deterrent, but if you've never even been shooting, how likely is it that you'll even know where to look to find a place to shoot?

You do what I did when I moved to Oregon a year ago. Type "Shooting Range" into a search engine.

No doubt it is getting harder to find free places to shoot. We don't help the situation when we, as a shooting community, are slobs and leave empty casings and trash everywhere. My last trip to the range I picked up over 400 casing left by previous shooters along with empty boxes and other assorted trash. This is a gravel pit on public land, no doubt it will be posted as closed to shooting sooner rather than later.

IIRC, you said before that you'd first shot in a boy scout / cub scout setting, and that it didn't make much difference to you as a kid.

Not exactly but close (though I don't recall ever sharing that here). When I was about 8-10 my parents took my brother and me to the local gun club that had a youth program. We only went for a couple of months because neither of us were that interested. My interest in shooting came from my interest in hunting which was something a lot of my extended family activity did. As an 8 year old I was far more interested in beating the bush in a deer drive then shooting paper targets with a bolt action 22.

When I've introduced college students and even people in their thirties with a 10/22 - some of them even moderately anti-gun to start - it's been far more effective than anything else in helping them understand what we are about.

No doubt the best way to introduce people to shooting is to take them shooting. Even if they don't take an interest in the sport at least they have some real experience with guns to help form future opinions.

I think your personal opinions are that young people don't value anything, so I doubt that anything could be said to sway you.

I've never said anything similar to that nor do I believe that. It has been my experience that Millennials value different things than my generation just as I value different things than my parents generation.
 
My son was a Criminal Justice major in college. I extended a standing offer to take any of his classmates or friends shooting basically on my dime. Not a whisper of interest by any of them, aside from him.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
 
This thread is a very interesting read. I appreciate all the 20 and 30 somethings sharing their opinions. I'm only 50 and shooting opportunities seem to be very different from when I was a kid or young adult.

I remember Boy Scout shooting at paper too. It was boooooring. It was for safety (good) and a merit badge (okay), but for fun shooting I preferred walking on a relative's land and doing a little hunting or busting bottles.

The good thing is my grandpa and dad exposed my brother and myself to shooting rather young. I let it slide off my radar from about age 18 to 28. This was due to being a student, working, or spending my money on motorcycles. I did get to shoot a little in that time, but I never set aside my own money for my own gun until 28. And it was cheap, as was the ammo it fired. SKS in the early '90s anyone?

Back in my young adult days I could go shooting in nearby fields or drive somewhere not too far away. Just shooting, no range fees, no hassles, just practice and fun. Due to continued urban sprawl and hunting lease price hikes, I don't see how non-rural shooters get to really enjoy shooting apart from going to a range.

I have taken my daughter and step-daughters shooting. It didn't really take with firearms when they were young as it was all on paper. What they did enjoy more was shooting airguns with "active" targets. They busted up dozens and dozens of Happy Meal toys with lots of fun.

Now that my step-daughters are in their lower 20s, they are thinking of shooting without me suggesting it. So the seed was planted, they lost interest, and now they are bringing up the topic.

My daughter and step-son are still in high school and just care about friends, school, and jobs to make some cash.

I guess the point to all that is, my kids will probably all get some sort of gun from me when the time is right.
 
Yeah... balloons make great reactive targets and are challenging if there's a little wind. You can also stick a small rock in the tied end of the balloon and any wind will scoot it along on the grass if it's not too heavy. One range I belong to also allows sporting clays, which means that when people miss them, I recycle them on the rifle range. Even steel targets are more fun to shoot at than paper. Paper is about the most boring target possible, but a few shoot-n-see stickers help a little if that's all you have.

I've used variations of these to introduce a lot of new shooters - usually whatever combination I can come up with at the time. A new shooter hits a few 12" balloons at 100 yards with a .22, especially after a few misses then they get it right, and they'll want to try it again.

I've never had anyone ask me to go shooting, but I've never had anyone refuse an offer to go either. One girl from the "left coast" was taken aback when she saw an NRA membership in my mail while visiting. About a year later, after a couple range trips, she texted me to tell me she'd bought a Ruger 10/22 with a wood stock on her own.

Might not always work that way, but it definitely won't work that way if we don't do anything to help it along. That's all I got.
 
Aarond said:
Pass it on? Why not?
I'm 63 years old,,,
I have 54 fiery-arms and a will,,,
Just in case I croak sooner than expected.

But I do think I'll pass most of my guns on long before then

For one thing I want to see the reaction when I do.

I've given several pistols as gifts to college kids I've taught to shoot,,,
The look on their face is always something that is a joy to behold.




Imagine the look on some young persons face,,,
When I hand them a case containing a CZ-75B in 9mm,,,
And a matching CZ-75B Kadet in .22 LR along with extra mags and such.

The guns will come with letters I have already written,,,
Explaining why I chose them to receive the guns,,,
And my hopes that they keep and use them.

There will come a time when I can no longer enjoy shooting my guns,,,
I hope that is a long time away but it's as inevitable as taxes.

Why not get a big blast of enjoyment before I take the dirt nap.

Aarond
That's a very cool thing to do. Good on you.
 
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