Why S W 686 NO Dash models not selling
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I have a no-dash 6-inch 686, and I have no intentions of getting rid of it. Some few had to go back, but when I called S&W and asked if mine needed to be sent back, a techie asked me to get the gun, then, when it was in hand, he had me cock it and something else I don't recall at the moment. When I told him what happened, he said, "Nope. You don't have a problem. You're good." He told me that very few needed to be returned.
The no-dash model, of course, was the first issue of the revolver. Smith had been beaten up on its quality control and was intent that the 686 be up to Python-like accuracy. And indeed, the first wave were tested thoroughly and were found to give the Python a run for its money. This was done by tightening up on the tolerances and the QC.
From what I've heard from subsequent 686 owners, the accuracy of these guns has remained top notch, but I think the first wave got a great deal of scrutiny. I'd love to get a 4-incher, no-dash, as I prefer the wood grips, chromed parts and integral front sight.
The no-dash model, of course, was the first issue of the revolver. Smith had been beaten up on its quality control and was intent that the 686 be up to Python-like accuracy. And indeed, the first wave were tested thoroughly and were found to give the Python a run for its money. This was done by tightening up on the tolerances and the QC.
From what I've heard from subsequent 686 owners, the accuracy of these guns has remained top notch, but I think the first wave got a great deal of scrutiny. I'd love to get a 4-incher, no-dash, as I prefer the wood grips, chromed parts and integral front sight.
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I also have a 6 inch 686 no dash, and I've never understood why they weren't ever held in the same regard as the Colt Pythons. The 686 is my favorite firearm. I'm sort of glad that they don't have the same Python following...it keeps people from asking me if they can buy mine 
I know that the no dash had a recall on it, but mines never been modified and I never intend to get it done. I can see how this recall would scare some people away from wanting one...but I'm willing to bet that most of those people haven't had the chance to shoot groups with one. Haha!
I know that the no dash had a recall on it, but mines never been modified and I never intend to get it done. I can see how this recall would scare some people away from wanting one...but I'm willing to bet that most of those people haven't had the chance to shoot groups with one. Haha!
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If it's not selling, I'd think the reason isn't the model number. I have nothing against 586s, but for me to buy one, it would have to be an el primo model. Stainless guns can be polished and buffed, but many of the guns I've seen for sale on Gunbroker are priced too high, have postage that's too high or photos that are fuzzy or hide too much.
Many people don't want to have to return a gun that's not quite as pristine as they'd been led to believe.
Stainless guns, I think, go faster than blued, at least in fairly recent guns. The old royal blue is a thing of the past. i have some blued Rugers and while they're not bad, their bluing isn't what the old Smiths used to sport.
Many people don't want to have to return a gun that's not quite as pristine as they'd been led to believe.
Stainless guns, I think, go faster than blued, at least in fairly recent guns. The old royal blue is a thing of the past. i have some blued Rugers and while they're not bad, their bluing isn't what the old Smiths used to sport.
Nathan, do you know someplace that has a bunch of old no dash S&Ws that they can't sell? I think the reason (if I understand your question) is that most people who own older S&Ws will not sell them. I have a modest collection of no dash S&Ws and they will never be sold until I am gone. Guns like those will never be made again.
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Drail nailed it.
If it is an old S&W, and it isn't selling, it is due to either condition or price...most likely the latter.
If it is an old S&W, and it isn't selling, it is due to either condition or price...most likely the latter.
bikemutt
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I would like to see an example of the problem, link please.
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All the no dash whatever models get snatched up fast locally. I was able to snatch up a 686 no dash for $550 before Christmas. It was a 8-3/8 model. Super accurate and love to shoot it.
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Pretty much that in my area depending on LGS vs private sale and condition.
bikemutt
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A really good condition nice 6" 585 no-dash is a good deal at $550, fair at $600 and pushing the envelope at $650 if it has box and papers. If I find one for $500, I'll take the seller out for dinner as well. Anything less and the serial # needs to be run.
Hatchett
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The early ones did have like a floating hand with a tendency to make the trigger a little crunchier than later models.
evan price
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I think the lack of a dash seems to make sellers add a premium to the price. The difference between no dash and dash one is not much.
This is my 686 no dash
. I've had it got over 30+ years. I really do not remember how long I've had it. It had thousand's of hand loads thru it over the years and in it's time been back to S&W twice to have the trigger hinge pin replaced twice. Both time it crack off where it is pressed in the main frame. Other than that it's been a super shooter.
My question is does anyone have an idea when it was actually made. the serial number is AAR20XX
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. I've had it got over 30+ years. I really do not remember how long I've had it. It had thousand's of hand loads thru it over the years and in it's time been back to S&W twice to have the trigger hinge pin replaced twice. Both time it crack off where it is pressed in the main frame. Other than that it's been a super shooter.
My question is does anyone have an idea when it was actually made. the serial number is AAR20XX
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Fishslayer
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Between Oct & Dec 1982
The floating hand came along with the -1 in '86. I believe they went back but not sure what year. The floating hand wasn't particularly well liked from what I've read.
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My 686 is a dash2 gun. I shot it this weekend. I'll say this...if the no dash guns shoot better than my gun...wow! If you're looking for a real shooter, get a 686 or a 586! These are good shooting handguns and LOTS of fun. I've only shot two (one each), both had 6' barrels, and both guns made me smile when I saw the groups. That's knowing that my shooting is nothing to brag about.
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