Why the clip?

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Clever/smart crooks are in the minority in the subset of criminals who commit personal crimes. There's not a lot of money to be made in muggings and robberies of individuals in most cases. The smarter crooks tend to go after business for that reason, think how much cash a busy convenience store has in the register on a Friday/Saturday night.

A smart/clever crook that's still doing personal crimes, isn't going to want to go after an armed victim. If they wanted a fair fight they'd be MMA fighters or boxers or something. If they realize they've got an armed victim halfway into the deal, they are most likely going to run like hell. You are much more likely going to have a dumb crook trying to stick you up, and it's going to take something like a t-shirt that says "I have a gun," to get them to notice a weapon.

-Jenrick
 
Conwict
I can also see your point. And i respect your intelligence. I also remember what SM said. So im going to try a 30 day experiment and clip both of them iwb- out of sight and see what happens.
But im still gonna turn the wife loose if the brown stuff hits the blades. LOL
 
I always take the clips off my folders - I can see their usefulness in being more handy, but frankly it's just not socially acceptable to show a knife to the people I work with in urban circles in my profession. And so if it's INSIDE the pocket as it needs to be, then the clip is just extra thickness I don't want, and interferes with a nice-feeling grip on MOST knives.
 
John...

Umm, not only do I not own a knife with a clip, I do not always use a holster with a gun either. *whups*

Before everyone starts yelling, John, hso, Jeff, Lee, and Ken are aware of some of my history and why I do as I do.

Hey, sometimes I do not even carry a knife, or gun period.

It is said one learns from everyone they meet. Not just mentors, instructors, parents also criminals.

So yes, I include criminals as mentors. I have asked to be locked up just to read a jail and learn stuff.
There are some very good street tips, one can learn from being in a cell, and paying attention.

i.e.
One used to could smoke in a jail, and the concession cart would come in, and folks bought a pouch of Bugler cigarette tobacco, which came with the cigarette papers. Now the jail only wanted inmates to buy one book of matches at a time.

The sign said "No Holstered Guns" , so we did not use a holster for our guns to attend this illegal dawg fight.

I managed to get attention and gain confidence by being in a bar, rolling a smoke, and I had split a match to light my smoke.

Inmates did that in jail to conserve matches.

Pay attention here.
Bugler in a pouch comes with 40 cigarette papers today.
There are only 20 matches in a book of matches.
Yes you can get 32 - 40 cigarettes from a pouch of Bugler.


I cannot recall if Bugler used to do 32 papers or not, I do know other brands of papers run 32, still that is more smokes, than matches.

In the illegal dawg fight, they did not care if you had a gun, just do not holster it.
Eyes were watching to see if folks turned back once seeing the sign , to remove a holster and leave in a vehicle.
Why?
Only cops and legit folks use a holster and you just got made or profiled.

It was accepted, when a lady entered, she was going to have hands go where they should not, to make sure she was not wearing a holster, a wire, or had a gun hidden in bra or clothing.

My lady partner would not wear a bra, unbutton her shirt, exposing all and show her gun in her back pocket. She did not get touched...she was a player and knew how the game was played.

My word was good, and I had already passed the test earlier with the gal checking me out, and quite well.

They just wanted to see the gun. Heck leave it on the table , they did not care.
Honesty among thieves...
Heck, they might want me to go out out back and shoot the back of a knee of someone that owed a gambling , drug, or whore debt.
They needed to see I had a gun.

I was a player, I knew the correct gun was a .22, I really must be a player since I was carrying snub nose .22 revolver.
No spent brass to worry about where a shot was fired, what brand of .22 rim-fire used and ...less evidence means more chance of not getting caught.
Most often a single shot .22 rifle was used for such things as shooting folks...one that would shoot short, long and long rifle
It gives the shooter distance from target , no ejected brass, and .22 short is really quiet from a rifle. In a more secluded spot, use the .22 long rifle.
Still a .22 short will kill a prized hunting dawg to send a message...



You exit a Limo, and you enter the structure and again, "No Holstered Guns".
They check the briefcase, it has the $35k in cash, and you raise your coat, to show the C&L Steel Combat Commander with Ivory Stocks in waistband.
They fondle the 18K yellow gold razor blade around your neck.

Lady Partner has a expensive dress on, cut down to "here" and the slit on the side going up to "there".

Her gun is atop her "wrap", it too with Ivory Stocks. The ladies and gents at the door can tell my lady partner has nothing concealed, and she has parts.

She is allowed to place her gun in a small hand purse once inside, and hosts watch her do so.

The meal is 5 star, Champagne is Dom Peri, the Scotch is single malt and the cigar is Cuban.

He uses your 18K yg Zippo, you use his 14k yg Dunhill and he smokes Dunhills, and you smoke a Players.
He keeps my briefcase, and I leave with his, they match, even the lock combo is the same.

Reading the room, blending in to surroundings, not drawing attention, giving perspectives...


Arranged is the fella you taught a lesson to. I did not really shoot the guy in the back of the knee, or kill that man's favorite Beagle, or use a knife to slice a breast of the wife of a fella that needed some manners, or respect.
Some serious folks think I did.


Playing the game is what we called it, just sick humor to stay sane.

In the first example most folks carried a Buck 110, I did not, I carried a certain pocket knife, with a single blade, non locking. It was my signature for some things.
And no, it is not what you think it is either.
The last example I carried a Ivory Handled custom fixed, with 01 blade, small.
Handle was ~ 3 1/2" long blade was about 2 1/2" .

In both examples, a holster would draw attention in a heart beat.
Chairs scoot back, guns get drawn and aimed, and some fast answers were wanted.


Re: Clips

Cops and Military folks have a hard time not being Cops or Military folks. The discipline is ingrained. Which is fine, except for being on the street , and not wanting to look like a Cop or one that has been in the Military.

Cross pen and pencils in Chrome were for Patrolman, part of the Uniform.
10 karat gold filled was after another rank and 14k karat gold filled for on up in rank.

I or my lady partner had never met these two gentleman. Cops. One was fairly new, and one seasoned.

We come from out of state, arrive to where we are to meet and enter. From across the room I spotted them at the door.
"Babe, are sure your parents said this was the location" I said and grabbed her hand to exit.
Leaving the nice lady at the door with a puzzled look. We had been inside for less than 10 seconds.

We left, we called later and re scheduled , and had some "suggestions".

There were 2 sets of eyes that had made those two as cops. Just as I did, my partner was watching our six and did not catch them as I was reading the room.

Tennis shoes, jeans, and shirt ...in the shirt pocket of one was a Chrome Cross Pen and the older fella had a Gold Chrome Pen.
The way the acted confirmed "COP".

They had been made, and we did not need to be made. We had to get two more cops for what we needed to do. My call and I chose to use two lady officers from Vice. They had some street experiences.

There is a time and place for things. Just there is no one absolute that is a "one-size fits-all".


Professional Thugs are among the best at not advertising, as they blend in so well.
You have been in line at the bank and did not know that lady or gent was a Professional Thug.
You and your family have dined at a nice restaurant and never knew the folks at the next table were Professional Thugs.

Most likely you were checking out "youths" near, or the pocket clips on pockets of others, or trying to see if you could pick out another CCW-er.

Pros has all of these types pegged , and none of these types knew they had been pegged.
 
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Another informative, insightful, post
from the master.
lessons learned -
examine your habits - change as needed
PLan, then plan somemore

blend in
learn to think like "them"
Know "them"
gather intelligence
recon
brains are the best weapon
 
Nice story SM!
Pros has all of these types pegged , and none of these types knew they had been pegged.

What does a clip exactly tell a pro?
Does it tell them that the guy with a clip is not a pro?
What if they guy with the clip is a pro but he wants the other pros to think that he is not a pro?
 
I keep forgeting most of you live where you can get a CCW. Very frusterating, my bad.

I just recall my old man from early on teaching me to play my cards very close to you're vest. Let nobody ever know what you've got. Just seems to me the visable pocket clip is a flair going off to some who know where to look, size you up. Maybe make the difference between letting it go, or giving the carrier a steel pipe in the back of the head and going for the cliped knife and a fast pat down to get a nice handgun while you lay there with a brain hemorage.

I guess my question on the clip is from my own background of being as inconspicious as possable. Grey man approach.
 
I use a clip on my front right pocket most of the time and it moves to just behind my right hip in a suit Inside the Waist Band and behind the belt.

If my front right has a louder bit of steel in it or my spot behind the right hip has a heavier bit of steel on it then the clip on moves to the left side....sometimes.

As to young folks and clip ons the biggest issue is that todays young folks grew up in schools that seriously dumped on folks with knives period. I still see a fair number among college age kids and college students in the SE and SW.

Recently compared clip ons with a pair of Mormon Missonaries and have done so with others in the past. I would think it odd that young men whose religion teaches personal preparedness and personal responsibility would not have a handy one handed knife close to hand.

-Bob Hollingsworth
 
a clip makes it easier to get to...instead of fumbling around in a pocket. as for carrying a knife, even other than the defense viewpoint, which is enough in my eyes, knives are plain handy. cutting fruit, rope, packaging; you name it.
 
I tried going to one of my dad's non locking, no clip trapper models for about a month. Great knife. I just find it easier to get to the ones with the clip that are sitting right at the top of my pocket, so I went back to clips.

They are common here to the point of being non noticeable. I know it is different in other parts of the country . . . I have relatives visit that are very excited to be able to actually use their clips instead of hiding their knifes away when they come visit.
 
sm,

I have used that little Case in school quite a few times. I figure I can excuse a small knife like that, where my Spydercos could be much more likely to get me in trouble.

John
 
I see both sides of the story

I can see where some people would use the clip as a target to spot someone carrying. I actually have had a couple of people (friends and students of mine) ask me about the knives that am carrying.

I like to carry a knife with a clip on it. I actually carry a folding utility knife with a clip when I am working on a construction site. I currently carry a Kershaw Blackout that is a great knife for utilitarian purposes. I like the clip holding the knife in position for an easy grab when needed. I like that it holds the knife out of the detritus that seems to collect at the bottom of my pocket.

Where I am, a clip does not indicate that someone is carrying. I teach on a university campus and see multiple clips every day in class. I see many women carrying kives with clips as well. I would venture a guess and say that none of them are carrying seeing as it is illegal to carry firearms open or concealed on campus.

I respect all sides to the argument and see all sides. I prefer to carry a clip for convenience sake.

In retrospect, I usually wear garments that cover my pockets including the clip so maybe I am in the clear on both sides of the argument.
 
I actually keep mine cliped to the waistband of my pants, @ the front mos belt loop. Its not obvious, my knife is well under the local length requirements, and i can get to it quicky w/ out it getting caught on a pocket.
 
A shirt tail or jacket tends to conceal the clip in the pocket at least as well as the gun on the belt...I don't really think of a pocket knife as a weapon, except as a last resort. I carry a gerber tool or leatherman.
 
John,

You just made my day, thank you.


Leadhead,

You can do this, heck most likely you have.

-You see a guy/gal in white painter pants, with paint on boots, shirt, hat, glasses and see a clip for a Super Knife ( razor blade knife) and you are going to think , painter, or drywall installer.

-You see a clip on a pocket, and the guy, gal is a bit too careful in how they reach up to get something on a shelf, or getting down to lower shelf, or picking up a shopping list they dropped.

You are going to think CCW-er most often, correct?

Now we are not even to the Pros yet, just some models of criminals are more educated street wise than others.

The person has a pen in hand and marks off items on that list, or is seen at checkout writing a check , or signing a credit card.
Now you know if they are right or left handed.

So...most folks are going to have a gun on the side of strong hand, correct?

So when a takedown is done, the strong side is hit hardest, to keep strong hand off gun.

Hence the reason a lot of the old seasoned cops were so proficient weak handed, as to throw off a bad guy with attention focused on "strong side".

Now in reading a target, a criminal will notice that person reaching up, down , or picking up that list in that aisle.

Oh...they spot a wire, or small hose. That is a pain pump, or med pump, or even a monitor.
That is "why" they were they way they were reaching and stooping.

This leads into some more things I won't go into ...


-Parking lot.
This is a good one to share.
We are not to the Pros yet...still various models of criminals.

They pay attention to how folks get out of a car.
They will take note of the time you pulled in, parked, cut off engine and get out.
They know some gals will put on lipstick, or mess with hair, or check a bra strap.
If a lady is wearing a dress, they will take a second to make sure a slip is not showing or if static cling season , get that stupid dress to not cling!

Ladies often times do all this in a very smooth, fast , easy flow of events. Yes they check them selves in car window reflection. Still ladies for the most part are better at being self assured.

Guys primp, and fiddle around, especially if new to CCW-ing. They get out and using vehicle and door as concealemetn , mess with the CCW, and check themselves longer in window reflection than ladies do.

Heck even a Cop with a duty belt will often have to adjust gear getting out of a squad car. The rookie takes longer, the seasoned cop does so in a very matter of fact, smooth, fast , easy going, flowing motion.
Without knowing rank, you can often spot a rookie cop, vs seasoned one.

Pros.

They check stuff like your hands and nails.
They overhear at a diner how you , I dunno, say you are bragging and lying about having been a fishermen on a boat for an uncle for 30 days. The hands don't lie.
Drywall installers, painters and wood workers never get hands really clean.
Just like a fisherman, the hands are seasoned, with callouses.

A surgeons hands now...just like a scrub tech will be more clean than J.Q.Public, as they really do "scrub in".

Glasses are another thing. They can tell who is trying to be something they are not , by wearing fashion frames.

The drywall , painter folks never really get all cleaned up , including glasses.
Some will wear the nice pair when out , and have the work pair stay at home.
Still look at the face, and how the nice frames do not match the areas that really do not get clean?

Think getting sun, and removing your sunglasses and the "raccoon face".

The seasoned surgeon is most likely to have money, nice ride and credit cards.
Painters used to carry more cash than they do now. Still the painter to hit , is the one that looks to be in charge. Just read how others in a group act around him, her.

Pros are smoooooth, cool, ice in veins and know more about a subject than you do.
They toss out little things to test you, and see how you react and respond.

A Professional lady can talk pregnancy, child birth, getting shots and day care, and she may not have ever had a child.
Still the mark feels comfortable and lets down defenses and reveals too much.

A Professional gent, can relate to a guy that is a new daddy. And he is not a dad.
Oh he knows about morning sickness, and how it feels when that test kit turned blue, and the wife going to doc and its confirmed she/they are pregnant and the whole nine yards and "yeah, give the baby something to eat and a warm washcloth bath, and I betcha your baby sleeps better and you and the wife can get some sleep".

Stock market, politics, world events...Junior League, Country Club, Gentleman only clubs with cigars...they know it, it is natural, they blend in.


I have met some Pro Thugs, some under better circumstances than others...that is an understatement
Just due to the nature of what all I grew up into and have been involved in.

I have been on "neutral ground" , or "truce" or whatever goopy thing you want to call it, and been face to face, and spent time, quality time with some.

Granted this will get a Boss man a bit nervous and body guards to shake heads...

There was Respect. Hard to explain, but an earned respect. One situation dealt with me wanting to know who set me up and I survived , and it took some time recovering.
The Pro wanted to know who got family members of his hurt, and wanted to know if me and mine were responsible.
We were not. Not our thing...

He called me at my hotel.
Which was freaky, as I was under a alias.
Still he knew, and the word was I was off limits.

This guy was into other things, and not into doing what I was really concerned about for my and mines direct safety.
He was a really good bookkeeper...*ahem*

He assisted me in finding out who set me up.
I was able to assist him, on whom on his side was turning against him.

All legit on my part, actually his too, if that makes sense.
Me and my lady partner, had a hands off, deal. Meaning, if the ones that we did concern ourselves were to be around, we got tipped off and out the back door, or our six watched, whatever.

I will not share what it was, still there was a 'code' or codes if you will.
I, she, we could walk into a area, or restaurant, and we were not messed with, and while we were watched, it was for our safety.
Most folks don't have this problem, they go into places and never know.
Me and mine did not go some places.

You could go to that restaurant and not have a worry, we did. Then again lady partner and I might go into a Topless bar, and our vehicle was safe, and we ate a really good meal, in the private area, or just sat at the bar, or table and ate bar food.

Rough and tumble roadhouse, where the band has a cage around them, no problem.

Or that nice place you would have to make reservations a month in advance for your anniversary dinner with the wife...
We would call, say we were in town, and did they have room for us.
We got the nice parking spot, messed around in the kitchen, and had the table with the view.




He found out his problems, and I found out mine.

This guy had heard of me, and when I was down, and in bad shape, said he wanted to help, if my people would let him.
Order food, go get it, he would pay for it, etc.

I ruined a gun in my ordeal, actually my lady pard's gun...
It went back to the factory and replaced with a new one, with the old serial number stamped on it.

He offered to pay for the gun. It seems...umm...he did not like some folks even if they were Pros.

Lady pard's dawg was killed with this ordeal. I used to eat dawg biscuits with Mic ( Michelangelo).
She got a telegram one day about a black lab puppy, it had a bloodline, and papers, and more fancy paperwork than she and I put together.
It was hers, she had first dibbs, and it could be shipped, or she , we, could pick it up.
Einstein we named him.
This Pro provided Einstein.

He came with his own Mobster hat...handsome fella, smart as could be, and we ribbed he did not come with a Continental , Violin case, or with a custom suit with stripes and Italian shoes.

Another group that can read folks , are the hi priced escorts.
Oh the street hookers can read you...
These expensive escort ladies can really read you!

You want to find out if a wife is cheating on you , or a husband, or business partner is stealing from the company, or assisting in ruining the business and it being bought out, get a hi class escort. She will peg it every time.

Pocket clips on knives are just another thing among many that is read.
Not a new thing, just old stuff re badged as modern.

Blending in is the key...
 
I guess it all comes down to how you were mentored while growing up.

My dad was a strange quiet sort of guy. Never would really tell you much about himself, but he had some odd habits. He told us to practice having a small lockblade in a pocket, and easing it open with one hand while inside the pocket. He told us that if things started to look hinky, to open it and have it ready but out of sight. Kind of going up a notch in DEFCON but without letting anyone know.

I've got a Cabela's winter jacket with nice roomy pockets, and a Gerber LST, Spyderco dragonfly, or small Bucklight, can be opened easy while inside coat pocket, and kept right in hand ready to use. To an outsider, you just look like one more guy with his hand in his pocket.

Dad told us of the Q ship theroy. They looked like inocent little frieghters, and a U-boat would not want to waste a torpedo on it, so they would surface to sink it with gunfire. At that point the Q-ship would drop the sides on the false cargo stuff on deck and open fire with 5 inchers on the suprised U-boat.

Walking sticks, screwdrivers, pens, all to take an attacker by surprise.

Mentors teach one to see, observe, whats around you. Watch people as you walk. Somebody you don't know approaching you, you go to battle stations and get ready to drop the sides of the false cargo containers. You have your weapon right in your hand, in your pocket ready to go. Even a little Christy knife or a Spyderco ladybug will do critical damage if used in the right spot. A hat or dummy keyring flipped into the face at the right moment can distract for a crutial second.

Gypseys always had problems with people harassing them. They developed sneaky tacktics to deal with being outnumberd. Small knife hidden, but ready in hand, can change the mind of a attacker, depending on what gets cut or stabed. Then they escape the area. Some even carry a couple of the same kind of small lockblade. One in pants pocket, another in jacket pocket.

Thats the problems with gun holsters, it makes you too predictable. Same with clips on knives. Small alloy J frame can be more usefull in side coat pocket, or worn Mexican style where it can be gotten to with either hand. Criminals practice this in prison. A shank carried where it can be gotten to right now. The house of many doors is a finishing school for some. They come out way more dangerous than when they went in. They learn to be adaptable. Thats the trouble with the stuff they print in gun/knife/whatever magazines, too predictable. Sometimes the wrong people read the same magazines to keep up with what the trends are, what are they going to run across on the street.

Sometimes just going in a place changes the conditions. It may be better to inconpiciously palm your knife/gun out of where it is, to where it will be better/faster to use if the worst happens. If you can have it already open, so much the better.

Of course most of you live where you can CCw a firearm. Okay, I'll admit I'm jelous. Green with envy even. Here in Maryland and Washington D.C. we have to make do with less. But the side benifit is the oposition sometimes does the same.

For the last 3 months I've been in a group session down at the V.A. hospital in Washington for depression. Most of my fellow vets there are from some of the meaner parts of D.C. A few have served time in prison, a few have had a drug problem. We've gotten to know each other for a while now, and I've had some insightfull conversations with them down in the coffee bar in the lobby. There's this one I'll call Harvey. Looks a bit like actor forrest Whittiker, big hulking fella about 6' 4 or 5" .

We were sitting down in the lobby having a coffee, and Harvey seemed very adept at picking out who was carrying what. He made the unsettling remark that if he needed a gun or knife, he'd just pick out somebody that was packing one, then hit them from behind and take it. He pointed out that this was the easiest way to get a good gun or knife, go where the mall ninja's hang out and get one from them. He even could I.D. which clips were for what brand of tactical knife. Spyderco, Benchmade, cheap knock offs.

Of course, Harvey is reformed these days.

It was a startling eye opening conversation.
 
Clever/smart crooks are in the minority in the subset of criminals who commit personal crimes. There's not a lot of money to be made in muggings and robberies of individuals in most cases. The smarter crooks tend to go after business for that reason, think how much cash a busy convenience store has in the register on a Friday/Saturday night.

A smart/clever crook that's still doing personal crimes, isn't going to want to go after an armed victim. If they wanted a fair fight they'd be MMA fighters or boxers or something.

I find this reasoning comforting...but it doesn't stand up to what I really think motivates many criminals.

There is more than a simple risk/benefit calculation going on in the minds of most VIOLENT criminals. Sure, there are some who make a career out of carefully selecting the highest-benefit targets with the least risk and do quite well. You probably aren't going to encounter those in a violent situation unless you're a criminal too, or are REALLY unlucky.

But the violent offender who goes to college for criminals, I mean prison, and retains his sadistic, mean SOB attitude/personality while becoming ever more street-wise is in the habit of committing crimes for a whole lot more than just a monetary reward. There is a pretty darn interesting book by a sociologist who wrote about the attraction to violence and evil...I may post the name later if I think of it. Written early 80s.

Bottom line though, I do my utmost to prepare (within my means and resources, financial and temporal) to survive in my day-to-day life and in a potential violent altercation if I can't avoid it...selecting high quality ammo, practicing, avoiding trouble spots...I'm not going to leave anything that I can to chance, and that includes exposing a pocket clip that makes me look like I pack heat to one in 500 folks.

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bikerdoc, that's a real compliment. Of course, before I got a chance to really bask in it, steve wrote us a book on the topic :)

I'm interested to know what you conclude, as far as convenience (or loss thereof) versus perks.
 
I think knives with clips have their uses, particularly it makes it more secure and less likely to loose it. You also have a way to keep the knife in place or clear up some pocket space.

However there are times when something a little easier to hide away is a better opportunity which is what I do when I have to give presentations, meetings and look respectable. A small Case or Buck does well in this role, or just stick in a Kershaw leek into my jacket pocket with either the clip on or off.

Most the time when I am working I have a multitool fastened to my belt with a carabiner and a knife with a clip such as a spyderco Delica or Military or with a Kershaw Blur or Leek and it does the work quite well.

When in an outdoors environment I tend to switch between my khukri or kabar for a fixed knife, the former being my main chopping and go to blade and something like the Spyderco for a quick easy to go to knife for simple work.

I also have the old standbys such as the Buck 110 folder that an edc around the house and garden, primarly because of its weight and they are so cheap to buy, but I don't like that outside of a sheath, they have no clip, lanyard attachment or other way to keep sure they don't get lost.

Really it is a matter of wearing whatever is appropriate for the situation. I think my usual knifes though are the Kershaw Leek and Spyderco Delica and both of these are clipped and of course the Leatherman wave which is easy to clip on the belt, due to its size.
 
TimboKhan,

No one is going to bother you, too big! I am also a big guy, 6' and 340lbs so I understand that a lot of people won't notice what your carrying... they are more worried about **you**. I also carry a Griptillian and I carry it because it has a really good pocket clip, I have a CS with a useless clip and a Spyderco and its pocket clip is very good. Around here, almost everyone has a knife or two so a pocket clip is, like someone earlier said, shoelaces.

SM you are a treasure trove of information! Wow, you really bring out some points that I think 90% of the people never think about, eye opening... Even myself I have never thought of some of things you mentioned, now I have to need to rethink some of my ideas...

Carl Levitian your last post had some good thoughts and ideas too, as with what SM said I really do need to rethink some of ideas...

When I clicked on this thread I wasn't sure what it was about, but boy have I learned a thing or two... more like many many a thing or two. Great thread. I guess this thread just goes to prove that we need to use our most dangerous weapon, our brain, more and maybe count less on tools. Attitude is really important.

Anyhow, I will set back and watch and learn!
Keep the good ideas and info flowing.

JohnnyOrygun
 
I just make sure my knives are legal. And then clip them in my right front pocket. A Bechmade Pika II right now, been this for awhile. With a zip tie pocket catch.

In my left cargo pocket have been carrying a CRKT m21. it's stays sharp for when I need it. Ussually cutting bread.

But on me I have a knife accessible to each hand. One clip is visible, other is hidden.

Works for me. But in SD I would probably use my hands first.
 
I found 75 cents in my spyderco the other day when I was carrying it without a clip, very irritating to flip out a knife and have something else come out with it, the clip lets a knife ride above all the other stuff in your pockets.

And now for the part where I don't reiterate everyone else, haha

Having the knife exposed is annoying as all hell, when you're seated and leaning forward it is extremely exposed, both visually and physically. I have to slap hands away from tugging out my knife out of curiosity fairly often when I meet new people during T-shirt season. It's irritating enough to have someone messing around with my pocket, but it really highlights the vulnerability aspect of visible clip, too.
 
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