JWF III
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I was just reading the thread about .45-70 recoil and got to thinking. What is the attraction of the Encore? I understand the ability to change barrels (calibers) is both nice and useful, but that's nowhere close to enough to do it for me. I looked at them exactly one time, when I saw the asking price of a new Encore, I started looking at rifles that could do a lot more for a lot less.
Here's my list of why not to buy one (in no particular order), give me your list of why to buy one.
1-Looks-Anybody with a decent set of eyes, and a decent idea of beauty in style, has to admit that it's not the best looking gun you can get for the same money. It is purely a utilitarian design, nothing fancy or special to it.
2-Price-Way over priced for what you get. The Handi-Rifle is almost the same rifle for a lot more reasonable price. Components for the Encore are rediculous also. It would take at least three barrels for one Encore before you broke even with the cost of the same quantity of moderatly price bolt guns. And if one of those barrels was .22lr, you just went backwards $100 or more. The main thing that you pay for with an Encore purchase is that free rifle that T/C gives to each and every pro hunter with a t.v. show. (And all that advertising during the show's commercial breaks.)
3-Barrel changing- This is a overly used attribute of the Encore. Yes it's easier, but you can also change the barrel out on a Savage 110 relatively simply. So what! You have to rezero the scope. Buy an old fashioned bore scope and record where each barrel zeros. Then within one or two shots you are back on zero. Did I mention the money you'd save in optics. Especially if you believe in high quality optics. You could buy one, top of THEIR line, Zeiss (or Swarovski, Leica, etc.) for what you'd have in a Leupold (or Burris, Nikon, etc.) on each of your two or three barrels.
4-Single shot-Granted this comes down to personal preference. But in a hunting situation (or especially HD/SD), it'd be better to have that extra shot or two. O.K., so having only one shot forces you to slow down and make a better shot. Well show some self control and force yourself to do the same thing with that bolt gun. I can remember reading the book about Carlos Hatchcock, he had the armorer machine a scope mount for the M-2 .50 caliber machine gun. He used this for sniper work from the fire base. Using good trigger control, he fired only one shot at a time. Just because you have all those rounds, doesn't mean you have to dump them as fast as you can.
5-Recoil-(This is how I came up with all this from the afformentioned thread.) When you have a light weight rifle, you are going to have heavy weight recoil. That's just common sense. The only two posts in that thread that complained about the recoil of the .45-70 ( yes I've shot many rounds from original trapdoors, both carbine and rifle) were shooting them in the Encore. I do understand the difference in the loads for modern rifles and antiques, but this still should tell you something. (This also stands to reason for short magnums, but that's for another thread.)
Alright, that is the end of my rant. For now.
Now all of you Encore owners give me the reasons why you bought the rifle. Talk me into buying one.
Wyman
P.S.-Please forgive any misspelled words, it's late, and I couldn't sleep with all the different scenarios of how the outcome of this election could turn real bad for OUR great country.
Here's my list of why not to buy one (in no particular order), give me your list of why to buy one.
1-Looks-Anybody with a decent set of eyes, and a decent idea of beauty in style, has to admit that it's not the best looking gun you can get for the same money. It is purely a utilitarian design, nothing fancy or special to it.
2-Price-Way over priced for what you get. The Handi-Rifle is almost the same rifle for a lot more reasonable price. Components for the Encore are rediculous also. It would take at least three barrels for one Encore before you broke even with the cost of the same quantity of moderatly price bolt guns. And if one of those barrels was .22lr, you just went backwards $100 or more. The main thing that you pay for with an Encore purchase is that free rifle that T/C gives to each and every pro hunter with a t.v. show. (And all that advertising during the show's commercial breaks.)
3-Barrel changing- This is a overly used attribute of the Encore. Yes it's easier, but you can also change the barrel out on a Savage 110 relatively simply. So what! You have to rezero the scope. Buy an old fashioned bore scope and record where each barrel zeros. Then within one or two shots you are back on zero. Did I mention the money you'd save in optics. Especially if you believe in high quality optics. You could buy one, top of THEIR line, Zeiss (or Swarovski, Leica, etc.) for what you'd have in a Leupold (or Burris, Nikon, etc.) on each of your two or three barrels.
4-Single shot-Granted this comes down to personal preference. But in a hunting situation (or especially HD/SD), it'd be better to have that extra shot or two. O.K., so having only one shot forces you to slow down and make a better shot. Well show some self control and force yourself to do the same thing with that bolt gun. I can remember reading the book about Carlos Hatchcock, he had the armorer machine a scope mount for the M-2 .50 caliber machine gun. He used this for sniper work from the fire base. Using good trigger control, he fired only one shot at a time. Just because you have all those rounds, doesn't mean you have to dump them as fast as you can.
5-Recoil-(This is how I came up with all this from the afformentioned thread.) When you have a light weight rifle, you are going to have heavy weight recoil. That's just common sense. The only two posts in that thread that complained about the recoil of the .45-70 ( yes I've shot many rounds from original trapdoors, both carbine and rifle) were shooting them in the Encore. I do understand the difference in the loads for modern rifles and antiques, but this still should tell you something. (This also stands to reason for short magnums, but that's for another thread.)
Alright, that is the end of my rant. For now.
Now all of you Encore owners give me the reasons why you bought the rifle. Talk me into buying one.
Wyman
P.S.-Please forgive any misspelled words, it's late, and I couldn't sleep with all the different scenarios of how the outcome of this election could turn real bad for OUR great country.