Why the NRA must be stopped.

[RON in PA]

In order for the 2nd Amendment to be protected from the anti-gunners of both parties, but historically primarily Democrats, it was necessary for the NRA to become involved in politics.

The OP sounds like he's Sarah Brady or Bloomberg.

 

[gunnut92]

NRA, criticized the administration for “completely [missing] the mark when it comes to stopping violent crime” and putting the last nail in the coffin for the 110 year old Civilian Marksmanship Program.

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Funny, that article is two years old, SURELY the CMP would be bankrupt by now...

https://thecmp.org/

Oh wait...It's not!

Yet another BS lie by the NRA.

 

[gunnut92]

In order for the 2nd Amendment to be protected from the anti-gunners of both parties, but historically primarily Democrats, it was necessary for the NRA to become involved in politics.

My point...yet again missed!

If the NRA wants support from PRO GUN Democrats

THEN STOP ATTACKING THEM...

I WANT TO SUPPORT THE 2A

BUT I CANT. BECAUSE I AM A Democrat

AND THE NRA IS REPUBLICAN

AND THEY HATE ME..

 

[basicblur]

So you are pretty much saying you don't want BG checks so the next guy can do the same, who could be a ex-con?

Satire does seem to go right over some folks' heads...

I'm simply pointing out what every gun owner in here already knows.
Your assertion that someone who was locked up for 30 years can waltz into a gun shop and buy a gun, no questions asked is ludicrous.

 

[Plan2Live]

Really wanted to bring that up, did you?

Let's not forget..


Quote:
with cuts to programs including food stamps, Dodd-Frank and the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

Yes, let's cut funding for food stamps, and affordable health care, I can almost hear the start of a second civil war..

I could easily and effectively debate you over the non-merits of food stamps, Dodd-Frank and the ACA, especially considering I will be getting in the shower shortly and heading off to work, on yet another weekend, as I try to get our company aligned for the next Dodd-Frank debacle measure that kicks in October 3rd but around here that is called topic drift so let's get back to my premise.

If the left were to ever get a "testing" requirement passed it would be implemented in a similar fashion to DC's new ordinances or New York's ordinances where there is excessive red tape and in most cases "they" can't even tell you what you need to do to get a permit. Meanwhile, every thug in the district has a piece.

 

[basicblur]

AND THE NRA IS REPUBLICAN

Hmmmm...I didn't get the memo - I'm a registered Independent.
Since the NRA is Republican, I guess they hate me also!?

AND THEY HATE ME..

Nah...I don't think that's why folks hate you...

 

[DeepSouth]

Funny, that article is two years old, SURELY the CMP would be bankrupt by now...

https://thecmp.org/

Oh wait...It's not!

Yet another BS lie by the NRA.

Everything else sighted was exactly as happened, yes two years ago. Imports of ww2 and Korean rifles were baned by BHO. And how exactly was that a NRA lie when they weren't even sighted in the article about the stuff that DID happen.


This is pointless, good day sir.
May reason come to your door someday.

 

[gunnut92]

If the left were to ever get a "testing" requirement passed it would be implemented in a similar fashion to DC's new ordinances or New York's ordinances where there is excessive red tape and in most cases "they" can't even tell you what you need to do to get a permit. Meanwhile, every thug in the district has a piece.

You forgot about Switzerland..

In 2005 over 10% of households contained handguns, compared to 18% of U.S. households that contained handguns. In 2005 almost 29% of households in Switzerland contained firearms of some kind, compared to almost 43% in the US

In order to purchase most weapons, the purchaser must obtain a weapon acquisition permit (Art. 8 WG). Swiss citizens over the age of 18 who are not psychiatrically disqualified nor identified as posing security problems, and who have a clean criminal record can request such a permit. Foreigners with the following citizenship are explicitly excluded from the right to possess weapons: Serbia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo, Macedonia, Turkey, Sri Lanka, Algeria and Albania (Art. 12, WV). The following information must be provided to the cantonal weapon bureau together with the weapon application form:

valid official identification or passport copy
residence address
criminal record copy not older than 3 months

Sure seems like a whole lot of "red tape" to own a gun don't it? Funny the ownership rate is almost as high as ours.

Nice try...

 

[CajunBass]

Yeah...my record is spotless, and darn if I've ever been able to "waltz into Pete's Gun Shop and buy a new handgun, no questions asked."

Well, mine is not quite "spotless", I did get one speeding ticket a few years back, but I'd like to know where "Pete's Gun Shop" is so I don't have to fill out the paperwork and wait for the "delay" that always seems to pop up with my name to clear.

Obama's opposition to the CMP EXPANSION had to do with HAND GUNS not rifles.

And you think that's a GOOD point to make?

If the NRA wants support from PRO GUN Democrats

The NRA does support pro gun Democrats. They're just sort of rare so they're hard to notice.

Now, you can see the NRA for what is really is, an Organization of Paranoid Nutcases who use lies to drive fear in order to increase the sale of weapons and ammo.

The NRA's board of directors is mostly republican, even Ted "poopy pants" Nugent is on there.

And don't you think name calling is sort of childish? Come on now. Really?

 

[gunnut92]

The NRA does support pro gun Democrats. They're just sort of rare so they're hard to notice.

Really? Funny I've never seen the NRA praise Obama for anything. They never once mentioned him allowing hand guns in national parks or on Amtrak trains.

They attack him every chance they get, even when he didn't pass gun laws the CEO Wayne LaPier called it a "conspiracy".

Please tell me again how the NRA supports pro gun Democrats?

 

[gunnut92]

And don't you think name calling is sort of childish? Come on now. Really?

A grown man does not defecate in his pants to avoid providing a service to our country, a child does.

No wait, not a child, a cowardice child.

 

[DeepSouth]

Please tell me again how the NRA supports pro gun Democrats?

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2...o-oppose-obamas-gun-violence-prevention-plan/

 

[gunnut92]

BTW, if the NRA was supposedly so "pro gun", let's not forget it has caved before.

Quoting it's CEO Wayne LaPier, in 1999...

"We think it's reasonable to provide mandatory instant criminal background checks for every sale at every gun show. No loopholes anywhere for anyone,"

BTW, if you do not believe me, here is him on video saying those words.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-oqfPojhec

 

[Plan2Live]

We can't even get a Voter ID law to stand up but you want 100% ID check on guns? Interesting....would you deny those same ID-less people who claim they are being prevented from voting from buying a gun? Or would the disenfranchised be exempted from the ID law?

And by the way, we don't live in Switzerland and this isn't 2005. We have current precedents for testing/permitting right here in the US that prove what Democrat controlled districts will do when given the opportunity. I want to squash any mission creep in that direction.

But let's move away from the negativity for a moment. Let me ask you this Sir Gunnut92, what do you do, and I mean actively do, to promote the safe and responsible use of firearms aside from playing keyboard commando?

I am a NRA certified Basic Pistol Instructor. I teach the safe and responsible use of firearms including safe storage that denies access to firearms by children and other unauthorized individuals. I have given gun safety presentations in person in front of various groups and on local radio programs. I have had gun safety articles published in local news publications and I will go to any venue, anytime, and talk about safe and responsible gun practices including safe storage and denying children access to firearms, free of charge. I believe in education, not legislation when it comes to responsible gun ownership. I would like to see the NRA's position neutral Eddie Eagle Gun Safety program presented in every public elementary school every year. I would like to see Obama follow through on Executive Order #7 of 23 and launch a nationwide gun safety education initiative, with the condition that this initiative be position neutral. I would like to see tax credits given for the purchase of safe storage devices like gun safes, or pistol storage boxes. I would like to see people like Michael Bloomberg put his money where his mouth is and offer safe storage solutions like the GunVault pistol storage boxes available at a reduced cost. I look at these types of measures as Common Sense gun initiatives.

 

[bannockburn]

gunnut92

As my grandfather (a former Democrat who got fed up with their party platform and in-house politics and became a Republican), would probably have offered this bit of advise to your position on the NRA: "Why don't you go peddle your papers somewhere else...nobody here is buying what you're trying to sell".

My grandfather was a very wise and practical man.

 

[CajunBass]

Really? Funny I've never seen the NRA praise Obama for anything. They never once mentioned him allowing hand guns in national parks or on Amtrak trains.

They attack him every chance they get, even when he didn't pass gun laws the CEO Wayne LaPier called it a "conspiracy".

Please tell me again how the NRA supports pro gun Democrats?

I never said they supported Obama. I said they support pro gun Democrats. You're the only person I've ever heard call Obama "pro-gun."

A grown man does not defecate in his pants to avoid providing a service to our country, a child does.

No wait, not a child, a cowardice child.

My comment had nothing at all to do with what Ted Nugent did. It had to do with your name calling.

 

[Deanimator]

IF the NRA would get out of politics and instead serve as a non-partisan support of the 2A, I would consider joining.

If the NRA "would get out of politics", the whole issue would be moot, since there wouldn't BE any gun owners... at least apart from a few corrupt, entitled nihilists like Nancy Pelosi.

The rest of what you posted is just the same old AHSA boilerplate.

I find it amusing that those like you think that they can come here and find gullible people willing to believe this ineptly crafted propaganda.

You have the interests of gun owners at heart to the same degree that Quisling, Degrelle, and Lavalle had the interests of Norwegians, Belgians and Frenchmen at heart.

This attempt will fail every bit as miserably as the last.

 

[Deanimator]

Just try driving a car without a license which you must get only after completing a drivers education course.

The history of gun control in North America is the history of violent White supremacism and the efforts of its proponents to create for themselves a "safe working environment".

If voter ID is racist, isn't gun control ten times as racist as that?

To an HONEST person, the answer is obvious.

You DO realize background checks have provided a metric crap ton of crime prevention?

I don't realize that because it's a lie.

 

[basicblur]

The NRA does support pro gun Democrats. They're just sort of rare so they're hard to notice.

As a fellow Virginian, I'm sure you remember our former Democrat governor Mark Warner!?

If I'm not mistaken, he passed every pro-gun legislation that crossed his desk when he was governor, and got an excellent rating from the NRA.

'Course, politics being what it is, now that he's a senator and less independent than he was as governor (now has to answer to the Democratic party), he bears watching.

 

[SwaneeSR]

Gun Nut = Troll

Waste of time responding to this thread.

I doubt Mr Nut will be posting a picture of his reloading bench or a question about which rifle to purchase.

I would suggest not giving the troll too much attention.

THR is The High Road.

 

[Radagast]

AND THE NRA IS REPUBLICAN

AND THEY HATE ME..

Paranoid delusions of persecution are not rational arguments. I suggest you seek medical treatment.
FWIW I am a monarchist and I support the NRA. Do you think they hate me?

 

[Radagast]

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[Snyper]

I thought "politics" wasn't allowed here.
I've seen valid gun threads locked down faster than this drivel

 

[USAF_Vet]

I WANT TO SUPPORT THE 2A

BUT I CAN'T

Enough said. Stick a fork in this one, folks. It's done.

 

[DoubleMag]

Lock it