Wilson and Baer

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I was waffling over this decision early this year and sort of decided on a Baer. A 5 inch with adjustable sights. Then the news from Colt so I have been buying Colt XSEs that are not going to be produced anymore even when Colt probably survives its third (or is it the fourth?) bankruptcy.
 
Drail, thanks for the kind words. I took up checkering when I first started working for Les. Everyone hated doing it and I figured; here is a way to make myself valuable. Become good at something no one else liked to do.

Been doing it every since, but have no desire to do it after retirement! I haven't checkered a gun since.

I think that my best job was on the engraved, presentation P-II that was on the cover of Handgunner a few years back.

Les gave me that gun as a retirement present. Some day it will go to my son.
 
.......Been doing it every since, but have no desire to do it after retirement! I haven't checkered a gun since.......I think that my best job was on the engraved, presentation P-II that was on the cover of Handgunner a few years back.....

Just curious - how many hours/days does it take to do the checkering on one gun? It's beautiful. I didn't know until recently that you did it by hand!


A relative of mine has a Wilson and a Dan Wesson. If both of those were on the table, along with a Les Baer, it would be hard to choose. Two months ago, I'd have said, hey, that's easy, I'll take the Wilson. Two days ago, I'm not so sure - the more I read/learn about Les Baer guns, the happier I am that I now have one.
 
the more I read/learn about Les Baer guns, the happier I am that I now have one.

caught myself looking at the price list on the website for a 5" Les Baer 38 Super
shame on this thread for making me want one :)

I was happy with having a 38 Super in 1911- now I want one from Les Baer
 
I'm not saying I'd never buy another brand, but I do love my Baer UTC.
It functions right. It feels right and because it does I shoot better with it.
 
I pretty much checkered and fitted all day long, every day. And they were not done from scratch, the frames were roughly checkered when they were machined. And I do mean roughly. It took a half hour or so to clean up the checkering on one frame. When it came in the diamonds were flat and the boarders unfinished.

Now, I HAVE checkered several hundred guns from scratch. All 20LPI guns were done from scratch. All checkering on the trigger guards I did from scratch. All checkered mainspring housings were done from scratch. The arched ones were the more difficult, and housings tear up checkering files much faster than frames. A from scratch job takes about two hours.

I consider myself average at checkering. There are much better, Look at Richard Heine's work if you want to see master craftsmanship.
 
A few years back I took a pistol class with a fairly high round count. A number of guys were shooting Wilson guns, and by the second day of the class they all had band-aids all over their hands from the nicks and scratches they picked up during gun handling. Maybe current Wilsons are better, but they used to have a lot of sharp edges that really only made themselves felt after some hard use. (One of the Wilson guys also had some malfs, but I don't know if they were gun related or ammo/shooter induced.)

I've got a Les Baer myself, and it's been 100% reliable, dead accurate, comfortable to shoot, with great features, sights, and trigger . . . WHAT ELSE do you want in a 1911? Everything on the outside that should be polished is . . . as is everything on the inside that should be polished. I've compared it to Wilson and Ed Brown, and, honestly, I don't see anything in the latter two to justify their higher - sharply higher - prices.

(Wilson makes some really nice magazines, though . . . )
 
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