Winchester '94 vs. Marlin 336
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ThomasT
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I didn't say soup can. I said tomato paste can. They are about half the size of a soup can. They are a favorite plinking target of mine for my 243.
I read the article "Rare Winchesters" for the third time. It has two pages in it. Maybe part of it is missing. But nowhere did it say anyone threw away their Marlin rifles.
I cannot imagine someone throwing government property in the trash because they were issued a marlin instead of a winchester. I don't know how they do things in canada but chunking your issued rifle in the trash in the u.s army would most likely get you several years in a federal prison.
I read the article "Rare Winchesters" for the third time. It has two pages in it. Maybe part of it is missing. But nowhere did it say anyone threw away their Marlin rifles.
I cannot imagine someone throwing government property in the trash because they were issued a marlin instead of a winchester. I don't know how they do things in canada but chunking your issued rifle in the trash in the u.s army would most likely get you several years in a federal prison.
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yeti
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Actually you said Tomato Paste, which is neither sauce nor soup.
ThomasT
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Thank you Yeti. You were right. I corrected that.:banghead:
I do save all the tomato PASTE cans. I use them for the above mentioned 243 and also backyard plinking with my 22 pump air rifle.
I do save all the tomato PASTE cans. I use them for the above mentioned 243 and also backyard plinking with my 22 pump air rifle.
Ratshooter, I know I seen it in there somewhere, I bet if you read it a fourth time you will see it, LMAO. Maybe your computer is not opening all the pages, LOL.
There is no way I could hit a 6oz tomato paste can at 150 yards with iron sights, but I might be crazy enough to try.
There is no way I could hit a 6oz tomato paste can at 150 yards with iron sights, but I might be crazy enough to try.
Vern Humphrey
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Yes. A good low power scope is a very fast sight.
Do you hunt in thick brush? A scope will let you see through holes in the brush.
Do you hunt at dawn and dusk? A scope will pick up things you cannot see through open sights.
Do you expect your eyes to remain perfect as you grow older? Two words brother Dream World.
Yes I do and if its that thick I don't shoot because I wouldn't know what I was shooting at. Where I mainly hunt its so thick you have about 30-40 yards view on the ground. Open timber I could shoot far enough to eat. Up here in Iowa I don't hunt when the plants still have lots of leaves on them, I like it to be cold.
Yes I do, but I don't shoot in the dark, That is illegal here in Iowa. Unless you are hunting coyotes.
No they are already shot. Without my contacts or glasses I can't see past 8 inches without things getting blurry, 10 feet (maybe closer) away I can't see eyes, noses, lips on peoples faces. If it bothers me to much maybe I will get eye surgery.
R.W.Dale
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That may be OK for you if you're one of those Texas heartshot types where any hit between the nose and butthole is considered a successful shot but for me I shoot at individual places on game animals, My Ideal kill zone being not much larger than a plate.
I'll wager top money that RIGHT NOW you could not hit a paper plate at 200yds with even half of the rounds from a fully loaded 30-30 tube mag in field shooting positions using the cheap OE sights that come on these rifles.
And yes QUALITY low powered scopes are faster only one point to focus on THE TARGET. But not some 5x25x50mm NcStar
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Your right, as a kid in a family of 6 kids we ate our sauce (not paste) from a mason jar because we had canned it the season before from our huge 1 acre garden. We didn't eat much beef either, it was all deer meat, squirrel, rabbit, pheasant, or as we called it dead animal flesh. I hated deer meat growing up, my parents were no gourmet chiefs, they would fry it up in a pan with no spices gross, I want to puke thinking of it now. I do love deer meat now that I cook it.
All those deer were killed by bow and arrow back in the mid 80's. Most people in Iowa couldn't even kill a deer with a shotgun back then as we didn't have a lot of deer in Iowa back in the early to mid eighties. I have pictures of them also if you want to see them. My stepdad has been killing deer since you all were in diapers and did it with a bow.
There you guys go trying to belittle me again. We had plenty as kids, but were not snot noses by any means. If I messed up I would get smacked in the head so hard it would take me off my feet and mid way through the air get a kick in the ass that would set me back straight.
Now would you all quit trying to treat me like I'm a punk and get back to the OP. You guys have tried to belittle me from every angle. Young, rich,unexperianced, whats next? My spelling?
I guess I just prefer the Winchester over the Marlin, and wanted to say a few things about it, and maybe discuss it with people of THR.
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I apologize Clint. I read your posts and you sure convinced me you were about 16. Agree with you about rabbits, I like to sometimes use a .22 with iron sights for small game too. Have to admit that my big game experience is a bit different for sights. But, I've only hunted Africa, Europe, Canada, Texas and the South East US. Please share with us from your experiences where you used iron sights on big game.
Not a problem, I think it would be sweet to hunt on other continents, but after watching the movie Hostle I will never leave the good old U.S..
As far as big game, Deer is the biggest thing I have ever killed with iron sights, maybe not the biggest, but big enough for me. and it is mostly in open fields from a tree. No tree stand, just on a branch in a tree. I only bow hunt deer these days though. We don't use tree stands because it keeps my dingbat relatives from using our trees. Those deer are all cleaned at our home by us, from start to finish.
krochus, I don't take pop shots at animals and make sure they are in killing distances before I shoot. Just so you know I don't shoot at animals from 200 yards away with iron sights. But I bet I could if I wanted to.
R.W.Dale
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I'm not trying to be confrontational but I assure you that actually going to the range and using irons while trying to keep all your shots on a paper plate using a simple semi buckhorn sight can be a very humbling experience.
What's the longest verified range you've practiced at with a 30-30 using sights?
FAS1
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I purchased my Marlin 30-30 some years back from a friend that owns a pawn shop for $175.00. It appeared to be like new and had not been fired very much. I always wanted a Winchester 94 and did not know much about Marlins. It has been a great gun and no matter which brand you own or prefer, it's just cool to have a lever gun!
I've owned five Winchester 94s: one pre-'64 in .32 Special, two pre-'64s in .30-30, one post '64 in .30-30, and one Win. saddle ring Trapper, .30-30.
I've owned two Marlin 336s, both .30-30s, and one Marlin 1894s .41 Magnum.
I prefer the Marlins. I sold all the Winchesters. I still have and use the Marlins with great dependability and satisfaction.
Just my preference.
Oh, I almost forgot. I've been using them for 60 years, in all kinds of inclement weather and geographic terrain, on foot, on horseback, and in boats, and have NEVER dropped one in the mud. Maybe next time......... ??????
L.W.
I've owned two Marlin 336s, both .30-30s, and one Marlin 1894s .41 Magnum.
I prefer the Marlins. I sold all the Winchesters. I still have and use the Marlins with great dependability and satisfaction.
Just my preference.
Oh, I almost forgot. I've been using them for 60 years, in all kinds of inclement weather and geographic terrain, on foot, on horseback, and in boats, and have NEVER dropped one in the mud. Maybe next time......... ??????
L.W.
OldWolf
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I can keep 5 shots from my Marlin 45-70 in about a 6" circle at 100 yards using a benchrest and the factory irons (which are really good on that rifle imo). Based on that I would definitely think that given some practice, I could hit deer sized targets at 150 to maybe 200 yards. But my oh my I bet that target looks awfully small at that range.
schlockinz
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45-70 is a different beast, I can shoot sub MOA at 100yd with my 1895 iron sights. I don't like them because of the way they force my eyes to focus (aim, then relax my focus to blur the buckorn to make sure that my front blade is where I want it, makes it hard for me to get a clear image of the target and thus causes me to be less accurate when I move from left to right).
200yds and a pie plate with iron sights can be done by someone well versed with them. If it were me, and I were shooting those distances at game, I'd choose a good peep or a tang sight. Thats just me, I still prefer my 4.5-14 scoped 30.06 for longer shots
200yds and a pie plate with iron sights can be done by someone well versed with them. If it were me, and I were shooting those distances at game, I'd choose a good peep or a tang sight. Thats just me, I still prefer my 4.5-14 scoped 30.06 for longer shots
salvo
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Well I guess I'll add my 2 cents, I prefer the Winchester 94 to the Marlin 336. I have ten Model 94's, four of them are post 64 and I have not had a problem with any of them, I do not care for the rebounding hammer and safety in the one AE that I own and it does not have either any more I also prefer the obvious quality that the pre 64's have in the fit and finish. But then again I prefer the older Marlins too, for the same reason.
My two Marlin 336's are great samples of that line also, a 1947 336A and an 1969 336 Texan.
What makes me like the Winchester better is it's handling quality and sleek good looks. I'm also partial to the 94's action, the way it operates, looks and sounds. I even enjoy taking them apart for a detail cleaning. The Marlins are plenty good and very smooth and simple, just kinda boring for me.
Can't go wrong with either, but if I'm heading for the hills and one rifle is coming along it's usually a Winchester.
I also prefer the obvious quality that the pre 64's have in the fit and finish. But then again I prefer the older Marlins too, for the same reason.My two Marlin 336's are great samples of that line also, a 1947 336A and an 1969 336 Texan.
What makes me like the Winchester better is it's handling quality and sleek good looks. I'm also partial to the 94's action, the way it operates, looks and sounds. I even enjoy taking them apart for a detail cleaning. The Marlins are plenty good and very smooth and simple, just kinda boring for me.
Can't go wrong with either, but if I'm heading for the hills and one rifle is coming along it's usually a Winchester.
ThomasT
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Well, first off it isn't unexperianced it is inexperienced with an "e" not an "a".
Second how do you define rich? I make over a hundred thousand dollars a year and only have utilities and a house payment because everything else is paid for and I do not consider myself rich.
And third I for one am not picking on you. I am glad you can shoot so well and have a rifle you enjoy so much. I still have fairly good eyesight at 52 years of age and shoot open sighted rifles all the time. I refuse to scope my mini-14 and can hit a 13oz coffee can at 100 yards with every shot and a field rest. I am not sure I can see that 6oz tomato PASTE can at 150 yards without some help.
I for one am really enjoying the thread. Thanks for starting it.
Salvo, thanks for showing up, I was hoping you would.
For fun a friend of mine ( he shoots a 336) and I shoot at 4" sporting clays placed at 120 yards for fun. When those are shot up we use the small pieces at the same range and shoot them. We also do this with our .22lr's, and yes I can do that with my Winchester 9422 (made in 1976) as well. All of it with iron sights. Its a lot of fun, you guys should try it.
I will look into it as I am reading books nonstop. I am reading "War On The Middle Class" right now.
I am also, I just feel like I am telling my life story instead of talking about the rifles, why don't some of you all tell me some stories of you shooting your rifles.
I like my buckhorn sights, and am comfortable with them. I can shoot a dime size target at 25 yards with my .22lr using reciever sights. Its all about knowing when to got to the range. Having the right light, ammo, weather, and so on.
For fun a friend of mine ( he shoots a 336) and I shoot at 4" sporting clays placed at 120 yards for fun. When those are shot up we use the small pieces at the same range and shoot them. We also do this with our .22lr's, and yes I can do that with my Winchester 9422 (made in 1976) as well. All of it with iron sights. Its a lot of fun, you guys should try it.
I will look into it as I am reading books nonstop. I am reading "War On The Middle Class" right now.
I am also, I just feel like I am telling my life story instead of talking about the rifles, why don't some of you all tell me some stories of you shooting your rifles.
I like my buckhorn sights, and am comfortable with them. I can shoot a dime size target at 25 yards with my .22lr using reciever sights. Its all about knowing when to got to the range. Having the right light, ammo, weather, and so on.
R.W.Dale
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But have you tried using them at 200 yds. That's amuch diffrent challenge than 25 with a .22
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