Patchbunny
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Any word back from Winchester after you contacted them?
Winchester Ranger: Too many QC problems, will no longer purchase **pics**
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Any word back from Winchester after you contacted them?
The Ranger Bonded ammo almost always looks kind of rough, spotty and inconsistent due to the bonding process when the projectile is manufactured but performance and function should be well above par. The picture of RA9TA is somewhat bizarre, I've never seen anything like this and I've been selling large volumes of Ranger ammo for years. Sorry to hear I sent you the 45 ammo with one bad round. One should keep in mind with all ammunition that these are mass produced products so one should expect a very small percentage of imperfect ammo in a large sample and one should always visually inspect each round before inserting into a magazine with all ammo. Overall the Ranger line of ammo is one of the finer lines of ammo in my experience but they all have some issue or another from time to time, that is just the nature of the product.
As far as how Ranger ammo gets out to you guys, Its pretty simple. Winchester has an LE/Government sales division and a commercial sales division. Ranger is a product line that is under LE/Government sales and Commercial sales division has precedence over LE and make LE/Government sell to "LE Distributors" who are under contract to sell to LE only. However, the LE wholesalers and Winchester LE division both just want to make money and sell ammo so they really do not care who buys it as long as it gets bought and paid for. The Commercial side gets pissed off when LE ammo gets sold to commercial customers because it cuts into their sales of over-priced PDX1 20 round boxes and other commercial defense loads and they see it as they are losing money because LE/Government sales is intruding on there territory. Its really not hard to get Ranger LE ammo from the wholesalers if they know you, like you and you pay your bills on time, they just want to make money. Almost all of the retailers who acquire ranger ammo do it in this manor,I'm very positive no one is going to try to make or market fake ranger ammo or sell ammo that they know has a significant problem, but once in a while you will find a messed up round in any brand given a large enough sample.
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SGAmmo
As far as how Ranger ammo gets out to you guys, Its pretty simple. Winchester has an LE/Government sales division and a commercial sales division. Ranger is a product line that is under LE/Government sales and Commercial sales division has precedence over LE and make LE/Government sell to "LE Distributors" who are under contract to sell to LE only. However, the LE wholesalers and Winchester LE division both just want to make money and sell ammo so they really do not care who buys it as long as it gets bought and paid for. The Commercial side gets pissed off when LE ammo gets sold to commercial customers because it cuts into their sales of over-priced PDX1 20 round boxes and other commercial defense loads and they see it as they are losing money because LE/Government sales is intruding on there territory. Its really not hard to get Ranger LE ammo from the wholesalers if they know you, like you and you pay your bills on time, they just want to make money. Almost all of the retailers who acquire ranger ammo do it in this manor,I'm very positive no one is going to try to make or market fake ranger ammo or sell ammo that they know has a significant problem, but once in a while you will find a messed up round in any brand given a large enough sample.
Best Regards
SGAmmo
huntsman
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Were all the boxes properly sealed?
RatherNotSay
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I've always noticed that winchester has a wide base at the bottom of the case. Which results in a lot of FTE. Their lower "walmart" brand especially.
scrat
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i bought a box of winchester ammo for a 22 it was the worst box i had ever bought all of the bullets were very loose and holding them straight the bullet would sag. i had so many jams with that ammo. i have never bought winchester again. as for all my other guns i reload so i dont have any problem
DeepSouth
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About a year ago I bought a box and one of the cases had been folded in during crimping, no way it would chamber in anything. That was the first, and last, box I bought. If something that obvious could get by I'm not going to trust my life with what I can't see.
They were either from Ammo to Go or Ammo Man, don't remember now. They were 45acp's.
They were either from Ammo to Go or Ammo Man, don't remember now. They were 45acp's.
Wow. My pops and I split a box of 50 rds Ranger-T 230g 45ACP, and every round is flawless. I have also seen lots of balistics tests that have proven the round reliable. IMO, I would, and do carry this round when I carry my M&P 45c. Which is about half the time to my g19. I prefer Gold Dot's. I am also curious about the Federal HST round, I have seen great testing as well.
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