Wolf 9mm Ammo and Sig P226?

[Jenrick]

Hacker15E: Well I just saw this yesterday, you might find it interesting.

http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo/

specifically http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo/#bookmark4 and scroll down to "What Effect Did Coatings Have On Steel Cased Ammo Performance?", they actually section out the barrels and look at them after 10K rounds. Short answer is that after 6K rounds of Wolf or Brown Bear the bore was hosed, where 10K of federal didn't wear it near as much.

-Jenrick

 

[Hacker15E]

Thanks, that is real data.

 

[Rubber_Duck]

Hacker,

The point I wanted to make was that the copper coating is so thin you end up with steel-on-steel when you have a bi-metal jacketed bullet going down the bore, not so much the wear as that is debatable.


Jenrick,

I've been following a discussion on another board about the Lucky Gunner test and many people believe the barrels being shot out so early (I consider 6K rounds early for a chrome-lined barrel) has a lot to do with how hot they got the barrels using an unrealistic firing schedule and not allowing the barrels to stay within practical temperature ranges or letting then cool between strings of fire, thus accelerating wear.

I also don't know how relevant that article is since this thread was originally about steel case 9mm and handguns won't get as hot as an AR-15 so I don't think wear is an issue. FWIW I have no problem shooting steel-case in my my AR or my P226 but then I don't shoot it by the thousands either.

 

[otasan56]

I shot a bushel of Wolf (pre-polymer coating) through a SIG P228 before I realized it wasn't stylish. It all fed, fired and shucked just fine. The only thing I didn't like about it was the stinky-burning powder, like singed hair.

Strange - a stinky propellant.

 

[Jenrick]

Rubber_Duck: I agree that the difference between barrel wear in a 5.56 and 9mm handgun is going to be massive. I also agree completely that barrel overheating probably did more damage then anything, or at least dramatically increased the wear rate. My AR has well in excess of 10K on it and is not shot out.

-Jenrick

 

[Sebastian the Ibis]

I don't like running steel in a $500 pistol nevermind a $1000 pistol. The one time I did try a box of tula it was under powered and would barely cycle.

You got ripped off. Tula works just fine in my $500 guns.

Strange - a stinky propellant.

I love that smell!!!!