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WOLF ammuniton

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Kobun, Mar 23, 2004.

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WOLF ammo is:

  1. Good enough for match use.

    11 vote(s)
    10.9%
  2. Only good for plinking.

    79 vote(s)
    78.2%
  3. Feeds, but is inaccurate.

    9 vote(s)
    8.9%
  4. Does not work in my gun.

    10 vote(s)
    9.9%
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  1. Kobun

    Kobun Member

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    This has been a topic many times, but some of the things I would like to know hasn't been answered.

    Please be brief, and to the point.

    • In the US, is it Brass or Bimetal bullets that are imported?
    • What is your experience with the Bimetal bullets compared to the Brass ones if both are available.
    • What is your experience with WOLF's new Polymer Coating of the steel case?
    • Which has best accuracy; .223 62gr HP or 62gr FMJ?
    • Does the .40S&W (and .45ACP and 9x19) feed reliably in your gun, and is it accurate?
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      Tnx
     
  2. bountyhunter

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    You need to include a selection to vote for that says:

    Would never ALLOW it to go near my gun.
     
  3. Cacique500

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    I liked the 'old' green Wolf for my com-bloc's...I like the new 'grey' stuff even better...
     
  4. Beetle Bailey

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    I voted "Good for plinking." Quality varies by caliber IME.

    .22lr ammo is very accurate and reliable.

    7.62x39 is copper jacketed and worked reliably in my SKS (both the old laquer case and the new purple case). However the accuracy just isn't there.

    7.62x54r comes in both copper jacket and bimetal jacket and I haven't noticed a functional difference between them. Reliability is there but accuracy is only fair IMHO. I can group with it, but I like the surplus Czech ammo better.

    With the exception of the .22lr which I think is terrific, I only shoot Wolf ammo in Com-bloc or Com-bloc style guns (SKS and Mosin Nagant). I might try some Wolf ammo in my Bulgarian Makarov just to see. . .(currently using Barnaul).

    BTW, forgot to add: I prefer copper jacket to bimetal since I haven't seen a difference and many shooting ranges in my area don't allow bimetal bullets. HTH.
     
  5. Soap

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    I love Wolf in commie-designed guns. I use it all the time in my Makarov and AK. But for non-commie guns, I use other stuff.
     
  6. Mulliga

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    Works just fine in all my com-bloc guns (Yugo SKS, WASR-10). Not the most accurate stuff in the world, but nice hard primers and decently reliable stuff overall.
     
  7. 444

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    I checked "Only good for plinking" although it would be fine for certain matches but certainly not a formal NRA Highpower match or a benchrest match. It would be fine for action type matches. Wolf isn't the most accurate ammo I have tried, but it is good enough for most of my purposes.
     
  8. Ric

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    It doesn't want to feed in my Officers 1991, but shoots just fine in my Springfield full size
     
  9. Kobun

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    I should have mentioned that when I said match, I ment IPSC type shooting. Fast and fairly accurate.

    How do you rate the .223?

    The reason I ask is that I am about to order a container full of the stuff.
    Nice to have some feedback when your getting close to a million rounds delivered. :)

    In .223, do you use:
    -55 or 62gr?
    -FMJ or HP?
    -Bimetal or Copper bullets?
     
  10. 444

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    For action type matches it would be fine for me.
    I have fired in excess of 8000 rounds of Wolf in .223 and continue to buy it by the case or two cases at a time. I used it in a four day formal class last year and shot a distinguished graduate score and won the man on man shoot off with it. The end of class test was out to 200 meters. I also hit a pepper popper 6 out of 8 times from prone at 400 meters using Wolf in the same class.
     
  11. Dave Markowitz

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    I use Wolf 7.62x39 in my AK and SKS. I've run some 5.56 through my Mini-14 and it worked OK there, too. This past Sunday I ran 50 rounds of Wolf .45 ACP through my Springfield M1911A1 without a hitch.

    Wolf's accuracy is nothing to get excited about, but it's good enough for close range shooting, it's cheap and it functions fine in my guns.
     
  12. KaceCoyote

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    I'd be concerned with wolf in an AR or similar. The AK eats anything, and the Mini-14 and such arent much different in that respect. Most AR-15s I've seen take a good while to clean up. AK burns -FILTHY- I watched a thousand rounds burry my friend's M96 in gook. Went through an entire can've break free and four or five pack've swabs. It smells..off too but that could just be me. It smells like a nasty fart.
     
  13. Sylvilagus Aquaticus

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    I shoot a lot of it in my M44; my brother shoots it all the time in his SKS.

    Those are the only rifles it sees in my family.
    Kind of like only eating food you were raised on.

    Regards,
    Rabbit.
     
  14. BowStreetRunner

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    works great in my Makarov and my SKS
    BSR
     
  15. clipse

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    I vote:

    I would never let it close to my pistols. But my SKS loves it, and i love its price.


    clipse
     
  16. shooter1

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    I was unaware Wolf had changed the coating from laquer to polymer. Still I'll save it for my com block rifles and keep it away from my pistols and ARs!
    str1
     
  17. Kinsman

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    5.56 works well in my Mini-14 for plinking; I use milsurp in my M1a.
    .45 ACP did not feed reliably in my P90 plus you can't reload the stuff.
     
  18. OEF_VET

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    I use Wolf in ComBloc guns exclusively.
     
  19. entropy

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    It shoots OK out of my M38 Mosin, not as accurate as Czech, nor as cheap. I shoot some out of my handi-rifle in .223, but I'd be wary of it out of a semi-auto. I get far too many stovepipes in 9mm when I shoot it out of my Kel-tec SUB2000, and Winchester White box is about the same price($10.96/100 at Wally World) and reloadable to boot. Did I mention Dirty! Well, it is! Still, I find myself buying it when I can't get Czech 7.62x54R.



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    or...
    [X] Only for commie guns
     
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    commie ammo is fine (maybe even preferable :uhoh: !) for commie guns.

    I'm hesitant to use it in my non-commie firearms.
     
  22. AJ Dual

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    It's a great value for what it is.

    I don't hesitate to buy it by the case for my commie guns...

    I do hesitate to use it as cheap plinking fodder in my American pieces. But just long enough to buy a box or two for testing before I commit to a case.

    My Colt Match Target and my buddies Bushmaster, both with 5.56 NATO chambers, not SAMMI .223 chambers, refuse to cycle Wolf automaticaly, but fire fine on the first hand-cycled round. Whether it's a chamber issue, or a mag issue is uncertain. He made the mistake of investing in an entire case before we found that out, but no biggie, he sold the remaining 987 rounds to someone with a .223 SAR-3 AK and it ate it up.

    Wolf 9mm runs great in my Glocks, and in my Kel-Tec Sub9. As to "steel cases being hard on guns" it's a misnomer to some degree as steel can be made in many different hardnesses, and to replicate the ductility of brass to swell when fired and seal the chamber, steel in steel cased ammo is very soft. I can pinch the mouths of spent Wolf just as easy, if not easier than brass ammo. There may be steel on steel galling issues with extractors eventually, but any accelerated wear is by my guess, more of a metal incompatibility under friction than "steel being too tough".

    If it's an SKS or AK, no worries at all, and the .22 is actually German IIRC. If it's an American or European gun, test it first. Otherwise no worries as blasting ammo IMO.
     
  23. lee n. field

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    There should be a "ten foot pole" (that's 3 meters for you non-UnitedState-ians) option, at least for some guns. I broke an extractor with some Wolf .223, and won't use it again.
     
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    My beretta 92 likes the stuff, no malfucntions as of yet and i've shot over 1000 rnds of the stuff.
     
  25. Poodleshooter

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    A. Both are imported, as are loose Bi-metal bullets from the Wolf/Barnaul arsenals at Tula and Ulyanovsk. I see about 90%/10% bi-metal vs.copper.
    B. I only use the bi-metal. That's what chrome bores and barrels are for.
    C. THe polymer coating sounds interesting. I will buy some if it doesn't run for a premium.
    D. HP will generally be more accurate if the bullet is drawn from the bottom, and not simply a cut off FMJ. Check the base to find out. I can't comment on personal experience, as I have had failures with Wolf .223 and don't use it in my Colt HBAR. Just last week, I attempted to shoot the last two rounds I owned. 1 fired fine, the other wedged in the chamber and had to be driven out with a cleaning rod. It appeared to be improperly sized. I only use the 7.62x39 which has performed flawlessly in my AK.
    E. See D. I don't use the Wolf pistol ammo,as I can reload lead bullets for a fraction of the cost. It is generally reliable according to experiences of friends at my local club.
     
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