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Wolf Hunting Poll

Discussion in 'Hunting' started by Justin Holder, May 18, 2013.

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  1. Justin Holder

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    I voted for you.
     
  3. a-sheepdog

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    I believe that they do need to be hunted a little harder as they have had a profound effect on the elk population. I voted YES obviously.
     
  4. 351 WINCHESTER

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    God had it all figured out perfectely until man messed everything up. Everything He created has a purpose.
     
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    By that reasoning then longer hunting season fits right in. :evil:
    We who live in the middle of the wolf mess see what's happening.
     
  6. Justin Holder

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    Your not voting for me, your voting for all of us. ; )
     
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    You Got That Right !.................
     
  8. Art Eatman

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    And part of man's purpose--when not building cities for trade and commerce--is supplying food. Meat as well as veggies. Ranching as well as farming. "A full tummy is a happy tummy."

    So, controlling predators in order to have meat and veggies is a rational purpose.

    But "control" need not mean "eradication".
     
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    There's no other information given that I see other than the poll to lengthen the season. Would this mean an unlimited kill quota or just a longer period of time to fill a predetermined quota. Without more data to make an informed decision, one is just voting on emotions.
     
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    As I stated in my comment to the publication, the wolf season should be year-round until the target number of wolves is achieved and then managed to keep that number stable. If the urban fantasy crowd would listen to professional wildlife managers, they would realize their folly.
     
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    Same can be said for many of those that oppose wolves. Around here most of them blame the DNR and the tree-huggers for reintroducing the wolves to the area where in reality, they reintroduced themselves from Canada and neighboring states. The length of any hunting season in most instances is set to reduce that specific wildlife population to a desirable level. They are lengthened to decrease a specific population and shortened when the population falls below the desired number. The average citizen/hunter has no idea at all about carrying capacity and population goals. That's why we have professional wildlife managers. If professional wildlife managers suggest a longer season to achieve the population of wolves they feel lend to a healthy ecosystem so be it. But the Elk/Deer hunter that didn't put in his time last year and came home empty or the wolf enthusiast that wants to hear hundreds of them howlin' every night from anywhere in the state, is not qualified.
     
  12. 351 WINCHESTER

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    I wonder what would happen if it were possible to just let nature take care of itself as the good Lord intended? I know of no mistakes He has ever made.
     
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    "I wonder what would happen if it were possible to just let nature take care of itself..."

    Since people make babies, eat and do all that other stuff that we do in order to ensure our own survival, you're wondering about the unknowable.

    And since we're part of nature--for all that we do indeed make changes in it--it's a waste of psychic energy to worry about "woulda/coulda/shoulda".

    About all we can do is minimize our messes. The earth is my house; I try to keep the floor swept in my room.
     
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    I'd rather vote to round up all our imported wolves here in MN and ship them out there to you in Montana. We just had a successful season for them but our great legislature in all it's wisdom has decided we shall not hunt them for at least five years now.

    The issues here are political, not ecological or biological. We had wolves in MN. We have always had wolves in MN. However, the great unwashed decided that we needed more, and in 1974 wolf hunting was eliminated. Even when wolves were listed almost everywhere else as endangered, in MN they were only listed as threatened.

    Well, as a successful species does, their population expanded geometrically. In 2010, the DNR stated that we had already reached their population and range projection for 2030! Being now 25 years ahead of schedule sort of points out the problems farmers are facing in the northern half of MN. Sheep, which are PASTURE animals, can now only be raised in barns - this is pointless as sheep are grazing animals.

    Ok, I digress. My overall point is - wolves are here, we've got 'em, WE are also part of the ecology and have a right to compete. No one is saying eradicate the wolf, but they don't mix so well with towns and suburbs and farms. MN has millions of acres of open forest - state and national - and there's plenty of room for them there to support a thriving population. They don't need the space where we live as well. JMHO. Thank you for your kind attention.
     
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    Thank you 303.
     
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    I voted NO. Stop sticking your two cents into Nature's business.
     
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    What in the world is "nature's business"?
     
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    Not to take a right turn into THR church service, but I guess in light of those scriptures, I'm curious if you would illustrate how it was His intention that man not steward the earth as His Word seems to indicate. David killed the lions and bears that threatened his livestock after all; exercising dominion over and subduing his own habitat. :)
     
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    This guy in Wisconsin took care of business as God and Nature intended:

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    I am for extending any hunting season where the prey can kill me or my livestock.
     
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    HUH??? Letting the FIRST human live and breath was a mistake, IF you didn't want "nature" affected in any way!

    Those of us that lived with wolves, know EXACTLY what they do and are like! It's one thing our ancesters got right, and we now will have to do the job all over again. Trust me, they aren't those nice little doggies you see on Nat Geo!!

    I know i've done my part over the 25 years i lived in the bush, and i'll continue to do so.

    DM
     
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    Wolf on!

    Nothing wrong with being the apex predator, and we have guns :D

    We hunt Wolves for fun and profit, here in the Arctic, but then again we have thousands of Wolves and more Caribou, 350,000 in the local 'Wach" herd now. The Wolves here have never been wiped out, no roads here (yet) and a very low population ,9,000 people in an area larger than Indiana.

    Soooooooooooo, unlike the Southern 49, nature here has never been hunted out of balance , in the predator/prey angle of view. Wolves abound while Muskox, Moose and Caribou are plentyfull, they follow the cycles as they have for millions of years.

    If you saw the family and I on Nat Geo Life Below zero, and you like it, keep watching, you'll see my wife Agnes catch a nice Arctic Grey, getting 'em running away at full tilt, shot where no new holes were made in the making of his tanned pelt. :evil:
     
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    I plan to catch the rerun of S01/E01 tonight. I look forward to seeing you, Caribou. Literally.
     
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    I don't like WOLFS! they kill to many game animals for fun so yeah KILL KILL KILL save a WHITE TAIL!.
     
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