Woman Has gun blow up in Face

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"The P-32 has six main component groups: barrel, slide, firing mechanism, grip, and magazine. The barrel is made of SAE 4140 ordnance steel, heat treated to 48 HRC. The slide is also 4140 steel, and contains the firing pin and the extractor. The rectangular frame is machined from solid 7075-T6 aluminum and houses the firing mechanism." - Kel Tec site
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Thanks yet again, JohnBT !

Saves me the trouble of writing to them or doing any more research. I'll take that as a positive indication that their P3T is made from HTG* steel. The manual also says it "will accept +P ammuniton, however, not with continuous use."

My slide seems quite dense, unlike "pot metal" or sintered steel, and "rings" appropriately when tapped with a hunk of steel. (230RN's El-Cheapo Non-Destructive Testing Laboratory technique --this beats weighing it, then immersing it in water and weighing it again to establish its actual specific gravity*.)

10e6 TNX!

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* "Honest-To-Gawd"

** Google Archimede's principle.
 
With those little inexpensive pistols it is best to stay with 22 or 25 I believe, no talon ammo either :uhoh:

The total distruction of the slide :confused:is really something... The chamber is the item that contains the pressures. Must have been using some real hot loads, no matter what is mentioned, I would think:eek:
 
this is melissa

no they were not reloads..they were Winchester 9mm luger 115gr full metal jacket.. my friend had just picked them up from the store like 4 days ago.. and i said private range because im not going to give the name out. and i DID NOt buy the gun..it was my friends gun.. 2 people shot it before me and then i shot it 2 times and the second time is when it exploded.
 
"The chamber is the item that contains the pressures."

The chamber only contains the sidewise (radial) pressure. Those two thin rails at each side of the ejection port contain the longitudinal pressure.

They are stretched (put in tension) by the force of the pressure on the breech face being transferred to the locking surface on the front of the ejection port through those two thin pieces of metal around the ejection port.

That's what broke that gun --because the crappy material in those two thin portions of the slide could not take that tension.

Hello, Melissa and welcome! I hope you are feeling better and have a complete recovery.

I also hope this does not discourage you from more shooting. Bear in mind that billions and billions of rounds are fired every year in this country without mishap.

Falling off horses and getting back on and all that stuff.

Just don't get back on a horse named Talon.

Or Lorca, etc.
 
Even though what happened was awful and obviously very painful, it could have been worse. Be glad no shrapnel had hit your eyes, you could be missing something much worse. Im going to assume you were wearing safety eyeglasses though.
 
List of Bad Firearms?

Is there a website that has a list of firearms with known safety problems? A list of manufacturer recalls would also be helpful when purchasing used firearms. If not, someone should create one. This is something I would prefer to be proactive about instead of waiting until a gun blows up in my face.
 
Jimenez is back in business, they are owned by Shining Star Industries
Still making Saturday Night Specials, have a very inexpensive deal currently as all of their fine? weapons are coming with a second magazine at no extra charge. You don't really want to check out their website though, too many broken guns in need of repair there!
 
Tell you something Sam G., most any gun will explode if you feed it incorrectly or how about a squib load? Saw a guy at a gun show last year, his Kahr PM-9 blew up. He was supposedly shooting winchester white box at the time, he had pics and all the evidence too. That work "Handload" is the end of any proposed lawsuit against any entity.
Just read your post Melissa, sounds to me like Winchester White Box has struck again!
 
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Melissa herself has said it was not a handload.

She also did not report any abnormality with the first shot, so apparently it was not a squib load.

I would like to see the ejected case on the second shot, if it's still available (doubtful, of course), to determine who is at fault. If the case showed evidence of high pressure, I'd offer that the ammo manufacturer should be liable. If not, then it was clearly the gun manufacturer.

Right now, I'm thinking of the Ford Pinto gas tank and the Chevy pickup truck side-saddle tanks.

Too bad the principals of that company are starting up again, according to one of the above posts.

Too bad corporations like this exist.

As a famous American Jurist (Learned Hand?) once said, "The trouble with corporations is they have neither a soul to damn nor an ass to kick."
 
Melissa

Well, howdy, Melissa, and welcome to The High Road.

Can you tell us any more about the actual gun and the type of ammo? (No, I don't think it was the ammo, as this gun's design seems to be a "surprise" waiting to happen.)

There's plenty of 9mm target ammo out there, and it might be interesting to have a feel for what brand was in play.

What do you normally shoot?

Oh, and one last question, from the video, it looked like you were shooting right-handed and sighting with your left eye (kind of like what my daughter does), am I seeing that correctly?

Thanks for joining us. Hope you'll stick around.
 
e was pointing out that every gun product associated with Davis is a piece of junk.
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Gwinch, et al... I'll have to differ...

I wouldn't carry one of Davis' little semis, but their deringers from a few years back really weren't half bad.

I'm suspect that the problem in this case wasn't in the frame, but was in the lockup - maybe the thing wasn't lubed, something caught, over-pressure, catastrophic fail?

IMHO, with as much metal as one can put in the frames, that really shouldn't be the part one would expect to fail.
 
The frame did not fail but the slide which broke into two pieces, the rear doing the damage. This is always possible on any pistol which reaches the end of its recoil and suddenly stops. That it does not happen with other pistols is the use of proper materials. Even when slides fail on quality pistols, the failure is in the form of a crack. I can't say I have ever heard of another design having the slide break in half (even after double-charged loads or other failures where the pistol literally breaks into pieces).

Ash
 
yea i am right handed and i use my left eye..its just something ive always done...

and i think i know what i was shooting..i was there.. they were NOT reloads or anything like that my friend got the brand new at the store.. they were Winchester 9mm luger 115gr full metal jacket they came in a box of 100 and says made in the usa...


yea im doing alot better..my lip is almost to size..i get the stitches out tomorrow and talk to him about plastic surgery...
 
i cant get the pictures to load on here or else i would show you everything..i got pictures.. that way no one can tell me i was using reloads.
 
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