Woman utilizing self-defense gets her pistol taken but husband saves her with his pistol

[Aim1]

Using any type of instrument for self-defense leaves you open to having it taken and used against you. Luckily the husband was here to save his wife with his pistol.




https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...tedly-staring-young-daughters-bedroom-window/

 

[Armybrat]

Why on earth did dad leave mom outside the convenience store to deal with the pervert while he went inside to alert the clerk to call the police?

 

[Kleanbore]

There are more lessons here on what not to do than I recall seeing in any other single use of force incident.

 

[sparkyv]

My wife and I saw this this morning and thought the same thing. In fact, we asked ourselves why they even followed him off their property.

Why on earth did dad leave mom outside the convenience store to deal with the pervert while he went inside to alert the clerk to call the police?

There are more lessons here on what not to do than I recall seeing in any other single use of force incident.

 

[Aim1]

Luckiest thing they did was NOT shoot him in the back as he was fleeing as some citizens have done.

 

[Kevin Keith]

I wonder "ca, ca" meant. I assume the comma is supposed to be there. lol

 

[Jeff White]

Good grief! How does Texas view citizen's arrest? This case is a perfect example of what not to do....ever.....Who was watching the child while mom and dad were off playing Starsky and Hutch?

 

[.308 Norma]

"a Texas parent took action with his licensed firearm over the weekend."
I stopped reading after "licensed firearm."

 

[1942bull]

Why on earth did dad leave mom outside the convenience store to deal with the pervert while he went inside to alert the clerk to call the police?

Exactly. He could have come back to a corpse.

 

[Kleanbore]

The home owner did well.

Things may have happened to turn out well for him, this time. That remains to be seen.

 

[Jeff White]

When you know you are in your right to protect your family and some idiot comes along to test you.
The home owner did well.

Really? What if the wife was the one who was shot? Would you still be saying he did well?

 

[Golfanaticshooter]

Wow. Just..... Wow.

 

[Kleanbore]

I stopped reading after "licensed firearm

???

 

[jmorris]

Too much stupid going on in that one. Escalating a situation that was not a life/death one by bringing presenting a firearm.

being unprepared or unwilling to use it.

following someone you might have been within the law to draw a firearm on, on your property in Texas, at night, to a location where you are likely breaking the law…

 

[jmorris]

???

Firearms are not “licensed” in Texas.

 

[.308 Norma]

Deleted.

 

[Kleanbore]

That is an imprecision without substance.

 

[hso]

The home owner did well.

They did everything wrong.

They pursued with deadly force at the ready after he fled the property meaning there was no imminent threat. Fail.
They attempted to hold the individual. Fail.
The person left to detain the perpetrator at gunpoint did not have the skill to retain the weapon. Fail.
The person left to detain the perpetrator at gunpoint did not have the will to use the weapon. Fail.
The weaker person was left to detain the perpetrator (a gun is not a magic talisman). Fail.

All around delusional behavior on the part of the parents in the proper use of weapons.

 

[Kleanbore]

They did everything wrong.

They pursued with deadly force at the ready after he fled the property meaning there was no imminent threat. Fail.
They attempted to hold the individual. Fail.
The person left to detain the perpetrator at gunpoint did not have the skill to retain the weapon. Fail.
The person left to detain the perpetrator at gunpoint did not have the will to use the weapon. Fail.
The weaker person was left to detain the perpetrator (a gun is not a magic talisman). Fail.

All around delusional behavior on the part of the parents in the proper use of weapons.

And going outside with guns was BIG MISTAKE number one,

 

[Ignition Override]

Watching too many "western" movies (for that couple) or Charles Bronson movies etc seems to have blurred their ability to distinguish between entertainment and common sense.

Could the couple have called 911, remained in their yard for the police to arrive, and if necessary have Only the father follow the weirdo at a serious distance, in order to assist the police?

 

[Jeff White]

His wife is in obvious new of dire shooting lessons.

I don’t think her marksmanship ability was tested. What was tested was her will to fight when she was attacked. SHE FAILED! She is only alive because the perp who disarmed her chose not to kill her. Who knows maybe he wasn’t up to shooting another human being either.

This couple failed when they decided to pursue the criminal after he refused to comply with the command to wait for the police. YOU CAN’T SHOOT SOMEONE FOR FAILING TO COMPLY WITH YOUR COMMANDS.

The encounter was over when the perp got up and ran out of the yard. Or it should have been. Once they decided to pursue they placed themselves on very shaky legal ground both criminally and civilly. I don’t know what Texas law says about making a citizens arrest. I do know that in every state I am familiar with the citizens arrest laws, a private citizen only has arrest powers if they observe a felony in progress. If the crime was as described in the two media accounts I read it was most likely a misdemeanor unless the perp had priors for that.

The husband would have held the perp at gunpoint and allowed his wife to make the 911 call. I believe things would have been better.

How would that have been better? He already ran from the husband once. What was the legal authority that gave the husband and wife the right to pursue and attempt an arrest?

What would we be talking about if he ran from the husband a second time and the husband shot him?

This incident is a perfect example of what NOT to do.

 

[Jeff White]

Assuming they didn't get a good look at the perp's face and can't get a good sketch on him when the cops comes through. You'd rather have them sit at home and waiting for the cops can chase a sick perv down the street.

Like it or not, that’s the law.

He could have been following her, Now let that sink it for a minute.

That is completely irrelevant. We have laws in this country, even in Texas. The law only allows a private citizen to take action to thwart crime under certain circumstances. Those laws exist to discourage people from doing things just like this.

People who contemplate using deadly force have to be able to take emotion out of the formula when making decisions like pursuing a suspect. If you can’t do that then you are likely to face serious consequences for your emotional act.

 

[hso]

You'd rather

This isn't about the emotional reaction, it is what was tactically and legally appropriate. What they did was neither tactically or legally appropriate.

 

[sparkyv]

In the TV interview (voice only) she described that as the sound of the slide racking.

I wonder "ca, ca" meant. I assume the comma is supposed to be there. lol

 

[Kleanbore]

Any looks through my daughters window will face similar fate.

In no state or US territory is the treat of deadly force lawful to react to a voyeur.