Word of Caution-Lead Exposure

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All you shooters, reloaders and bullet casters need to be careful when exposing yourself to lead and primer compound. I just started my 2nd round of Chelation treatments for lead exposure. We never thought about it years ago and now are paying for not being informed about it. If you've done a lot of bullet casting it would be a good idea to have the lead test done. Be careful. Al
 
I have always washed my hands well and used normal precautions but a number of years ago found out my lead levels were too high. I stopped going to an indoor range that I competed at weekly and only go to out door matches. Casting, shooting and reloading have gone on as usual and my levels are now are fine again.
 
I have only been reloading for 2 years and shoot outdoors. No casting and use all jacketed bullets though some have exposed base. My level is already above normal at 14.9 . Just out of curiousity how high were yours?

I am trying to figure out where my exposure is comming from and so far the only thing I can come up with is how I handled spent primers and did not take care when emptying the tumblers. I moved to a LNL AP press along with a Redding T-7 turret both having excellent primer disposal into sealed containers. I now also wear a respirator when dumping or sifting tumbler media and use D-Lead wipes at the range after picking up my brass.
 
Don't forget to check those "Made in China" coffee mugs you drink out of.

Been casting indoors since the 1960's, reloading from same time frame, very little indoor shooting, lots of outdoor shooting. Very low numbers 4 to 6, get checked twice a year.
 
Don't breath while driving either.

There is still more lead from leaded gasoline in the roadside dust then there is in all the bullet casters in the world.

rc
 
Don't breath while driving either.

There is still more lead from leaded gasoline in the roadside dust then there is in all the bullet casters in the world.

rc
Rc you just gave me an idea. When my lead supply dries up you can find me on the roadside with a bucket getting the lead filled dust.
 
Makes me wonder what the blood lead level is for the folks at Missouri Bullets and other big time casters. You'd think it would be off the charts.
 
I'd think that you're on the right track with the emptying of the tumblers. That has to be the worst part. I know a lot of people tumble indoors. You should definitely take your tumbler outside when you dump it out.

Decapping also frees a lot of primer dust. You can find it at the bottom of a bin of freshly decapped brass, as well as buildup on your press.

Hmm, this makes me wonder if it isn't technically a little better to leave the spent primers in until after the initial tumbling, to cut down on primer dust in the tumbler. Putting freshly decapped brass through the media separator, outdoors, might be a good idea, too.
 
I'm no Doc but that lead level is no big deal for an adult. The "normal" level for adults is less than 20 mg/dec.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003360.htm
I have read alot of different things but from what I gathered from the CDC 10 or under is normal for adults . I have also seen 20 or under listed as normal for occupational exposure. I realize 14.9 is low but for only 2years of reloading , zero indoor shooting , no casting and using jacketed bullets and I see people who cast and shoot indoors for 60+ years and have levels lower than mine is what concerns me. I am not worried about it yet , but certainly don't want to see it increase.
 
Shooters/Reloaders need to realize that their hobby is not the only way to be exposed to lead and its dangerous effects.

Those with high levels need to also look for other ways they may be getting lead levels up.
 
I've been reloading and casting since '65 with no problems. Back then we all knew not to eat with our fingers or smoke cigerattes with leaded gray hands so I always licked my fingers clean before doing either.

;)
 
Franklin weighs in on lead poisoning ...

The following is a letter written by Benjamin Franklin to Benjamin Vaughan on July 31, 1786. The letter relates Franklin's recollection of lead's dangers in his boyhood Boston, where rum distilleries were prohibited from using leaden still-heads because they contaminated the rum with lead, causing people to lose the use of their hands:

"I recollect that, when I had the great pleasure of seeing you at Southampton, now a 12 months since, we had some conversation on the bad effects of lead taken inwardly; and that at your request I promised to send you in writing a particular account of several facts I there mentioned to you, of which you thought some good use might be made. I now sit down to fulfill that promise."

Franklin Talks about Lead in a Print Shop.

As the letter continues, Franklin recalls the time when he was working in a print shop in London and received advice from an old workman who may have saved Franklin's ability to write with a steady hand. The workman discouraged young Benjamin from warming the cases of leaden types before the fire. Although it made the cold metal easier to handle, others who followed the practice had met with disaster. Their hands would shake and they became so ill they could not work. Franklin writes:

"One of whom that used to earn his guinea a week, could not then make more than ten shillings, and the other, who had the dangles, but seven and sixpence. This, with a kind of obscure pain, that I had sometimes felt, as it were in the bones of my hand when working over the types made very hot, induced me to omit the practice."

Franklin Reveals Mysterious Lead Case in Europe:

"But I have been told of a case in Europe, I forget the place, where a whole family was afflicted with what we call dry bellyache, or colica pictonum, by drinking rain water. It was at a country-seat, which being situated too high to have the advantage of a well, was supplied with water from a tank, which received the water from the leaded roofs.

This had been drunk several years without mischief; but some young trees planted near the house growing up above the roof, and shedding the leaves upon it, it was supposed that an acid in those leaves had corroded the lead they covered and furnished the water of that with its baneful particles and qualities.

This, my dear friend, is all I can at present recollect on the subject. You will see by it, that the opinion of this mischievous effort from lead is at least above sixty years old; and you will observe with concern how long a useful truth may be known and exist, before it is generally received and practiced on.

I am, ever, yours most affectionately,

B. Franklin"

As a teenager, I pumped thousands of gallons of leaded gasoline as an employee at Dee's Sunoco, not to mention used it for degreasing car parts. My wife says that may have contributed to my stupidity, though she can't prove it.
 
Soldering electrical parts and cables for a job. Reloading, casting, shooting, tumbling thousands of rounds, gathering lead from the berm, smelting a ton of lead scrap, etc. and my lead level was under 5 last check.
Keep yourself clean, don't wipe your face with leady hands, use adequate ventilation, don't ingest the lead, and you will be fine. Wash up before you eat or drink and use Dawn dish soap and warm water.
Seriously, don't chew on your bullets either.
 
My Lead was at 16 last year.
Since then I've switched to an ultrasonic cleaner, and just use my tumbler for cleaning the lube off bottleneck cases.
I'll get tested again in a couple months. I'm curious how much, (if any), of a difference it will make.
 
I don't reload... may start, all this notwithstanding. i have LOTS of experience in chemical, pharmaceutical, and physical laboratories, though. I've worked places where people have been treated for ethylene/ methylene exposure, and know of a guy who died of phosgene exposure. SCARY, SCARY stuff... and toxic metal exposure is BAD. seriously, take all the precautions you'd use in a chemical lab, because chemical lab work with heavy toxic metals is what you're doing. air circultion, filtration, outer clothing covers, etc... me, if i were smelting lead, i'd have eye protection (you'd be amazed what can be absorbed occularly) and a respirator... and non-porous gloves for handling anything the lead touched, after ensuring it was cool and dry. i feel 'daring' pumping diesel fuel without the disposable mitts.
 
I wish there was a reliable source for information about where exactly the hazards come from. I know it can come from the air or ingestion, but I suspect based on some reports locally that it's the fumes that are nailing us. So high precautions while reloading and then shooting in a basement may be missing the point. I don't think it's the exposure of handling lead slugs that gets us half as much as the fumes via the lungs.

I wish copper bullets weren't so pricey.
 
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I reload with plated bullets which have no exposed lead surfaces, but lead in bullets? Sure, I knew about that. I had not known there was lead in spent primers - how much would be there?

I tumble my brass out in the garage and none of that comes in the house, just the clean brass.
 
I worked in a tire shop for a little while and it just occurred to me that the weights we used everyday where lead, and the dust on the floor was lead, and sweeping was probably not to safe, what's it take to lower levels, and is there a kit to do a test for me to keep on hand
 
Chelation Treatment

The proceedure that my Dr. uses is an I-V bag with EDTA and other ingrediants that takes 3hrs to do. Also take Cerefolin NAC once a day. It's not that bad and it really makes me feel better. I wasn't sure how I got the lead poisoning until I read RC's post, I rembered the time I woke-up in a ditch one morning years ago and didn't know where I was (LOL). Al
 
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