Absolutely not.
I'm fine with them adding to the number of databases that feed into NICS though.
Let's not forget something, not EVERY state uses the NICS system; some use their own. Not even LEO can access my CWFL data since it run by the Ag Commissioner.
I’d accept the op proposal as part of a compromise where we get
-constitutional amendment that puts term limit of 10 years on all fed employees and elected officials
-close the border completely. Deport everyone here who isn’t a citizen
-a balanced budget
-repeal of all current gun laws except fopa
Here's my alternative solution: REPEAL ALL FEDERAL GUN CONTROL LAWS.Simply put, if gun owners want to keep others from attacking gun rights, they’re going to need to provide an alternative solution and put a plan in place to address it.
Doing nothing won’t work forever.
Lots of states are POC (point of contact) for the dealer. The FFL doesn't contact NICS, they contact the state and the state contacts NICS. It depends on the state where you live if your name and firearms info goes into a state database. The FBI has access to that information. Nothing is going to change there if a nat'l UBC is passed by congress. For many of us it's already too late to be moaning about registration.
NICS misses about 10% of those who are prohibited to purchase a firearm. Lots of things would have to be changed if NICS is going to work as planned. Right now it's joke.
Case in point. I have a concealed carry license and I carry. In this state I can walk into a store with a concealed weapon and have to wait 10 days to pick up a new pistol. The state law was recently changed to 10 days. It's happened that I was never given a proceed and the dealer just sold me the pistol anyway. He was able to do that because NICS/FBI ran out of time to get it right. The system is broken and would require millions to be fixed.
Personally I'm not opposed to a UBC but it won't work unless the state runs it and with that you will get registration.
It appears that red flag laws and universal background checks appear to be the most likely legislation pushed, not assault weapons bans, age restrictions, or magazine capacities.
They are pushing for a universal background bill despite the fact that both recent shooters acquired their weapons legally and after having gone through a background check so not sure how making them go through the background check that they already went through would have changed anything.
The fact is that many mass shooters’ first major crime is their mass shooting, thus they have a clean background and nothing in their background to stop them from legally passing a background check or obtaining a weapon.
Most citizens concerns about background checks are that they keep the serial number and firearm information during a sale/transfer and thus know who owns what firearms and this is defacto registration which has historically been followed by confiscation such as the parallel red flag laws which would assist law enforcement in taking said weapons.
So, since I believe we are going to lose the battle on universal background checks and they will be required for all firearm/gun sales private and public what if we did them but did not have to give any of the weapon information, would that be acceptable to you?
Example:
Citizen: “This is John Smith. I am calling because I am selling a gun to Mike Johnson. I just want to know if Mike Johnson ( DOB 9/8/1971 & social security number ) is legally allowed to own a firearm and thus be sold one.”
The Government: “We just ran the background check on Mike Johnson and he is valid to own a firearm. You may sell him whatever firearm or firearms you want.”
Done.
Would that be acceptable?
Yes, I don’t think the government should have knowledge of our private affairs and I strongly disagree with background checks for private sales and also gun registration but I think we are going to lose on this one and the 2nd Amendment says nothing about background checks. This is just one way to make it so that it doesn’t become a backdoor way to gun registration if it does come to this.
Here's my alternative solution: REPEAL ALL FEDERAL GUN CONTROL LAWS.
Although this has some merit, I believe that it is the various state laws that have stepped way over the boundaries. The majority of the absurd laws are with the states with the biggest anti-gun government.Here's my alternative solution: REPEAL ALL FEDERAL GUN CONTROL LAWS.
Although this has some merit, I believe that it is the various state laws that have stepped way over the boundaries. The majority of the absurd laws are with the states with the biggest anti-gun government.
So, as a buyer, you'd give your SSN to an unknown seller to call it in? Not me.....
It could be set up so that a potential buyer runs themselves through the system and the system prints out a ‘ticket’ that has the date, buyer’s name, address and a PROCEED instruction, along with a unique verification number. The seller could call up the automated system and verify the number is valid, then simply record that number as proof they had sold the gun legally.So, as a buyer, you'd give your SSN to an unknown seller to call it in? Not me.....
I will ask this question again;
What am I getting in exchange for surrendering my current right to buy, sell and trade firearms for total Government permission to buy, sale, trade and own a firearm?
I’d accept the op proposal as part of a compromise where we get
-constitutional amendment that puts term limit of 10 years on all fed employees and elected officials
-close the border completely. Deport everyone here who isn’t a citizen
-a balanced budget
-repeal of all current gun laws except fopa
If you think your SSN is not readily available on the web for anyone who wants it, you may want to sit down for some bad news...