Would you buy a modern carbine in... .30 Carbine?

[BBroadside]

Eric F, I understand it all now! Thanks. I hadn't thought about compensators. I've seen bigger-caliber guns with them, but only in photos (i.e. the cover of a Gun Digest from the 1990s - an HK USP 40 with a compensator) but I don't know if they're considered effective.

 

[Huddog]

I would love to own a mil surp for historical purposes but alas the funds be not available. I would think it may be a great gun for a smaller person for home defense with maybe softpoint ammo. I just have not yet found gun and money at the same time.

 

[TimboKhan]

I'd like to see a gun like the Kel Tec PLR chambered for the 30 Carbine.

I would like that as well. The PLR in .223 is pretty high on my "want" list.

 

[saturno_v]

I was involved in a matter where a fella used a .30 carbine to kill two fella's in his living room. Apparently, it took the whole 30-round magazine to get the job done, with only 4 misses.

That is a truly ridiculous story....I don't believe it you bought it even for a second..

Even using ball ammo I bet few rounds of 30 carbine at close range put down anybody, including gym-junkies on crack....

Sounds like the nonsensical story of the 30 carbine being stopped by frozen clothes in Korea....has been disproved clearly...

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot36.htm

I like how the guy concluded its test with this sentence: "If anyone shot at a North Korean Commie and he didn't go down, it was because they missed him. Because frozen clothing sure won't slow down a .30 Carbine."

Yes I would buy a handy carbine in this caliber at reasonable price...

By the way, many many deer have fell in the south with 30 carbine rounds soft point even at more than 100 yards....ohh I forgot...the .7,62 X 33 round is ineffectual and anemic...too bad nodody told the deer....

 

[cluttonfred]

I, too, have to call ox turds on that one. Even with ball ammo, there were rarely any complaints about the effectiveness of the .30 carbine round at close range.

If you scroll up to the ballistics I posted earlier, or better yet go to the Federal Cartridge ballistics calculator on their site, you can see how the velocity, energy and trajectory all drop off quickly over 200 yards.

You can certainly see how shooting at North Koreans from one hill to the next at distance of a couple of hundred yards or more would have led to claims that the .30 carbine was ineffective, either because of the low energy or because they were just missing. At 100 yards or less, I don't think there were many complaints.

 

[Yellowfin]

I really dig the design of the P90 but would like it in something more powerful. The 8mm Kurz (7.93x33) would be nice.

 

[JShirley]

I don't see the point of 5.7mm when god already made a 7.62x25mm.

 

[chris in va]

I think it's fairly pointless with the Saiga floating around out there.

 

[akodo]

Owlnmole

I like the ballistics of the 30 carbine, but I don't like the price nor the availabity. There was a time when you could find 30 carbine on the shelf, but not anymore.

I'd love a carbine designed for moderate range, an 'urban sprawl rifle' if you will. It would have to have more power than a 45ACP, power equal to or less than a 7.62x39

Also, the ammo would have to be readily available, and relatively inexpensive.

To me, that leaves 2 ammo choices, 357 and 44 mag. Yes, 30 carbine and 45automag and 10mm all fit in there too, and all 3 of those are probably easier to make a semiauto carbine around. Still I cannot easily zip past the local sportinggoods store and expect them to have a few boxes. That also applies to TEOTWAWKI types as well, exotic calibers don't fetch as many scoops of Dog Gumbo.

 

[akodo]

Krochus writes

I would much rather have a semiautomatic EBR in.357 magnum..

Now that my friends would rock out

Carbon 15 writes

no..but I sure would like an M1 Carbine in a pistol caliber...9mm, .357, 10mm would be nice.

In that other 'what guns do you wish they made' there are also multiple calls for a medium to high capacity semiauto carbine in 357 mag or 44 mag.

/sigh Maybe someday someone will listen when people say what they want to buy, rather than people saying 'this is what I want to make, who would buy one?'

 

[mljdeckard]

My M-1 is my wife's primary weapon. I can find no reason to say this isn't the perfect HD cartridge.

 

[rbernie]

The round does not interest me. I'm perfectly happy with 7.62x39 as my 30cal intermediate round.

 

[SCPigpen]

If I was going for a carbine it would be in 9mm or .45. I think .30 Carbine is too "intermedeate" for what I'd use a carbine type rifle for.

 

[telecaster1981]

Might as well get a modern cartridge in it, even if the old ones did kill people.

I agree! You all should ditch your pistols in .45, 9mm, or .38spl/.357, and buy something in .357 Sig. Make sure it's plastic and blocky too!

 

[Mac45]

Never been a big fan of the .30 Carbine.
Nothing wrong with it mind you, just others I like better.
I'd probably pick up a M-1 if the price was right, but no, I don't have much interest in a "modern" carbine.

 

[LeonCarr]

The M1 .30 Carbine is just flat out fun to shoot. The rifle and the round just go together.

A modern rifle would not have the same "mystique" as the carbine.

I shot in a USPSA rifle side match once upon a time. I was shooting an AR, along with most of the other folks. The guy that won it was shooting a bone stock M1 Carbine .

Just my .02,
LeonCarr