epijunkie67
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I had a “hey, I wonder…” moment a few weeks ago and have been turning it over in my head since then and thought I’d get some feedback from you guys. I currently live in a state with a CCW law and in fact have a permit and carry on a daily basis. But of course, there are numerous places I can’t carry like the post office, court house, bars, etc. And if I travel there are several states I can’t take my weapon to at all. A recent trip to MA springs to mind.
So I wondered about the feasibility of instituting a FEDERAL carry permit system for private citizens. With all the hype about terrorist attacks and homeland security it seems like an ideal time to introduce the idea. I imagine a trade off of sorts where the permit would have much more stringent requirements but give you a great deal more flexibility. Here are some of my ideas.
Longer training course than the usual couple of hour thing. Maybe a 40 or 80 hour instruction period covering legal use of firearms, situational awareness, defensive considerations, etc. An extended range qualification at different ranges and conditions and re-qualify at the range yearly. All of that is basically like many of the gun courses being offered already so the resources are out there.
I also see a much more extensive “background check”. However, one key would be that local authorities would not be able to affect the decision. It would all be done at the federal level only. That keeps gun hating officials in states like MA or NY from screwing with the process.
The trade off for all of this is a permit that is good in every state and not limited by local constraints. It is also good on federal property. So you could carry in the post office, at schools, in the court house, in a bar (as long as you don’t drink). Basically anywhere.
You could advertise it as the “nations hidden defenders”, or something like that. We could argue (correctly) that terrorists and criminals are more likely to strike where people are unarmed and unable to defend themselves. But the new permit holders mean the bad guys would never know who did or didn’t have the ability to shoot back. You might even be able to get some of the gun hating states on board since it gives the anti’s a good argument AGAINST allowing CCW laws in their home states. “If you want to carry a gun get the federal permit.” The trade off of course is that people in those states COULD get the federal permit and be allowed to carry when they might not otherwise be allowed to do so.
What are your thoughts on this? I know the states rights people would have a fit over it but that doesn’t seem to have stopped the feds before. Hell, now days you can do almost anything if it’s for “homeland security” so why not get some good out of it? Would you apply for something like this given the extra hoops? Any suggestions?
So I wondered about the feasibility of instituting a FEDERAL carry permit system for private citizens. With all the hype about terrorist attacks and homeland security it seems like an ideal time to introduce the idea. I imagine a trade off of sorts where the permit would have much more stringent requirements but give you a great deal more flexibility. Here are some of my ideas.
Longer training course than the usual couple of hour thing. Maybe a 40 or 80 hour instruction period covering legal use of firearms, situational awareness, defensive considerations, etc. An extended range qualification at different ranges and conditions and re-qualify at the range yearly. All of that is basically like many of the gun courses being offered already so the resources are out there.
I also see a much more extensive “background check”. However, one key would be that local authorities would not be able to affect the decision. It would all be done at the federal level only. That keeps gun hating officials in states like MA or NY from screwing with the process.
The trade off for all of this is a permit that is good in every state and not limited by local constraints. It is also good on federal property. So you could carry in the post office, at schools, in the court house, in a bar (as long as you don’t drink). Basically anywhere.
You could advertise it as the “nations hidden defenders”, or something like that. We could argue (correctly) that terrorists and criminals are more likely to strike where people are unarmed and unable to defend themselves. But the new permit holders mean the bad guys would never know who did or didn’t have the ability to shoot back. You might even be able to get some of the gun hating states on board since it gives the anti’s a good argument AGAINST allowing CCW laws in their home states. “If you want to carry a gun get the federal permit.” The trade off of course is that people in those states COULD get the federal permit and be allowed to carry when they might not otherwise be allowed to do so.
What are your thoughts on this? I know the states rights people would have a fit over it but that doesn’t seem to have stopped the feds before. Hell, now days you can do almost anything if it’s for “homeland security” so why not get some good out of it? Would you apply for something like this given the extra hoops? Any suggestions?
