arcticap
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No Way
Never held elective anything.
Never held elective anything.
Would you vote for Rice?
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Moto
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No Way! Third party all the way, the 2 party system is ruining america by creating two opposite groups from which two choose, and neither of the big party canidates ever address alot of real issues. There needs to be MORE to choose from, I have never voted Dem, or Rep. nor do I plan to
denfoote
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You Bettcha!!!
Gimmie the sticker for my bumper and the sign for my lawn!!!
Gimmie the sticker for my bumper and the sign for my lawn!!!
iiibdsiil
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I definitely think she would be one of the better choices. I wish we could get someone that we were trying to find bad stuff to say about instead of good stuff.
Smoke
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I voted yes in the poll.
But after watching the last several years with a Republican president and Republican control in congress....I have decided that it doesn't make a lot of difference who is in D.C. We're all gonna get screwed over. RINO's just take a little longer.
Yes, I would vote for Rice. But she wouldn't be able to accomplish anything while in office.
Smoke
But after watching the last several years with a Republican president and Republican control in congress....I have decided that it doesn't make a lot of difference who is in D.C. We're all gonna get screwed over. RINO's just take a little longer.
Yes, I would vote for Rice. But she wouldn't be able to accomplish anything while in office.
Smoke
Fred Fuller
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Well, all I can say re. the overwhelming positive response here- "If you keep on doing what you've always done, you will keep on getting what you've always gotten." Obviously a lot of people are enjoying the journey to the nether regions via handbasket, hope you like the destination when you get there.
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gulogulo1970
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Not my first choice in the primaries but I would vote for her over a Democrat.
But right now I'm leaning towards, throwing my vote away, and voting for a third party.
But right now I'm leaning towards, throwing my vote away, and voting for a third party.
stevelyn
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Would you vote for Rice?
Absolutely, and I would probably volunteer for her campaign.
She's not Libertarian, but she's many times better than the current crop of jackasses who'll likely be applying for the job.
Absolutely, and I would probably volunteer for her campaign.
She's not Libertarian, but she's many times better than the current crop of jackasses who'll likely be applying for the job.
Mastrogiacomo
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God yes, I'd vote early and often. This country needs more people like her in office.
bogie
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I like Rice. I think she'd be an excellent choice. She'd also scare the bejeebers out of the Islamists, since I don't think she'd be quite as restrained as Bush. I'd vote for her in a heartbeat. Besides, it'll torque off all the ivory tower folks who live in the "right part of town," who think that Republicans are the racists...
Tell you guys what - y'all puke up a VIABLE candidate, and we'll consider it. Otherwise, you can take your vote, place it on someone who will definitely not win, and give Hillary an edge.
But that's what a lot of you guys seem to want anyway. Go back to Democratic Underground. It's getting boring.
Take 100 votes
They're split...
48 R
48 D
4 O
Pull one from the R side to the O side, and you have...
47 R
48 D
5 O
Likewise, if you refuse to vote "in protest" (right....), you get...
47 R
48 D
4 O
Same ultimate story.
Tell you guys what - y'all puke up a VIABLE candidate, and we'll consider it. Otherwise, you can take your vote, place it on someone who will definitely not win, and give Hillary an edge.
But that's what a lot of you guys seem to want anyway. Go back to Democratic Underground. It's getting boring.
Take 100 votes
They're split...
48 R
48 D
4 O
Pull one from the R side to the O side, and you have...
47 R
48 D
5 O
Likewise, if you refuse to vote "in protest" (right....), you get...
47 R
48 D
4 O
Same ultimate story.
one-shot-one
Member
Yes
I do empithize (sp) with some of the third party voters, but deep down I believe somethings cannot be changed and who ever is in office will be screwing over someone somewhere.
i would consider voting third party (consitition party) if i thought i would make a difference, but i do not believe it would, so ................
I do empithize (sp) with some of the third party voters, but deep down I believe somethings cannot be changed and who ever is in office will be screwing over someone somewhere.
i would consider voting third party (consitition party) if i thought i would make a difference, but i do not believe it would, so ................
Mr. James
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Maybe when the Stanley Cup finals are hosted in Hell.
1 old 0311
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Rice would be the smartest by far. BA at 19, Masters at 21, PHD at 23. She would <easily best> in a debate. The rednecks wont like her but most of them don't/can't vote anyway.
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scout26
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Just watching the Democrats sputter and drool would be worth it......
The Real Hawkeye
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I like her views on the right to keep and bear arms. Would like to see where she stands on other issues too, though. For example, would she nominate only strict constructionists/originalists to the Supreme Court?
Do you mean, as opposed to Hillary, the other person on the ballot? Then yes, I'd vote for Gomer Pyle over Hillary or most any 'mainstream' (i.e. 'extreme') Democrat likely to be put up by that party. Rice is possibly the least sickening of the truly disgusting neo-cons, since she is vocally pro-self-defense-freedoms.
We're tiptoeing our way out of the topic of the thread, and I'm sure this discussion will be had many times in the next couple years, but here goes anyway:
I voted libertarian in the last election for the sole purpose of giving the libertarian an edge. I would have considered not voting on the presidential part of the ballot had I not been able to find a candidate that I believed suitable for the job. I will do the same in the next election - evaluate the Republicrat candidates and come up with some idea of what to expect from them. If neither is suitable, I'll look outside of the two parties once again. Living in a red state made the decision a lot easier - had I been living in a swing state, I'd have given stronger consideration to voting for Bush.
Regarding the regurgitation of a candidate - you can't please everyone. For example, if either party could come up with a candidate I could consider "viable," I would vote for that candidate, eliminating the need to look elsewhere. As a hardcore Republican, I wouldn't expect you vote any other way. Despite the viability of a third party candidate, you'll always have the standby excuse you list. And I can live with that.
How about instead of telling one another to go to less than savory places (ex: hell, DU, White Castle) we both evaluate the candidates according to our own criteria and vote accordingly?
The Real Hawkeye
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If this is true (evidence please), then all you people working yourselves up about her should just settle down and move on to someone else, because it's just not going to happen. No Republican who is pro abortion stands a chance in hell of ever getting elected to the presidency. Never happen. Move on to your next best pick, and get off of Rice. You're waisting your time. The Republicans cannot win if social conservatives stay home or vote third party.
BTR: What do you mean by she's pro-abortion. Most likely she'd be pro-choice.
You may argue that there isn't a difference, but I'd beg to differ. When I'm in one of my extremist(offensive) periods, and going for the true pro-abortion angle, here's what I'd support:
China's mandatory abortions for familys that already have a child. (I'd be nice and set it at two).
Any fetus in which a physical deformity or likely mental retardation(IE Down's) is detected will be aborted.
Mentally retarded women will not carry a child to term. Heck, let's sterilize them so we don't have that problem in the first place. Heck, let's sterilize the blind, deaf, people with diabetes and other genetic defects.
Girls under age 18, those who haven't finished high school.
Just to offend everyone, we'll be nice and have the government pay for these mandatory services.
Get the idea?
You may argue that there isn't a difference, but I'd beg to differ. When I'm in one of my extremist(offensive) periods, and going for the true pro-abortion angle, here's what I'd support:
China's mandatory abortions for familys that already have a child. (I'd be nice and set it at two).
Any fetus in which a physical deformity or likely mental retardation(IE Down's) is detected will be aborted.
Mentally retarded women will not carry a child to term. Heck, let's sterilize them so we don't have that problem in the first place. Heck, let's sterilize the blind, deaf, people with diabetes and other genetic defects.
Girls under age 18, those who haven't finished high school.
Just to offend everyone, we'll be nice and have the government pay for these mandatory services.
Get the idea?
stevelyn
Member
Who cares? Non-issue. A woman's right to choose is legal, so it dosen't matter what her views are on it.
Nathaniel Firethorn
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Against Hillary? You bet.
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Oh, yeah, I'd help campaign for her. While she's not perfect, I feel that she'd be better than Bush. For example, I hear that she supports affirmative action, which I disagree with.
As for the abortion issue, let's face it: Just like Kerry/Bush and guns, as bad as Rice might be on the abortion issue, Hillary would be worse. Far, Far worse.
My views:
Hillary < Kerry < Bush < Rice
As for the abortion issue, let's face it: Just like Kerry/Bush and guns, as bad as Rice might be on the abortion issue, Hillary would be worse. Far, Far worse.
My views:
Hillary < Kerry < Bush < Rice
The Real Hawkeye
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You make a good point. "Pro abortion" is misleading. The fairest characterization would be "pro-choice on abortion." It's not like they go around talking women who would otherwise prefer delivering a baby into having the procedure.
DRZinn
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If I lived in a swing state, then yes, just to keep Clinton II out of office. Since I live in California, which is gonna swing left regardless, NO. I'll vote my principles, thank you very much.
But I'd put a Rice '08 bumper sticker on.
The advantages of a black female president? The leftists would have to abandon the majority of their strategy, which is crying disrimination and oppression any time a Republican makes a move.
The disadvantages? She'd still be a statist.
But I'd put a Rice '08 bumper sticker on.
The advantages of a black female president? The leftists would have to abandon the majority of their strategy, which is crying disrimination and oppression any time a Republican makes a move.
The disadvantages? She'd still be a statist.
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