Would you vote for Rice?

Would you vote for Rice for POTUS?

  • No.

    Votes: 73 16.8%
  • Yes.

    Votes: 232 53.5%
  • I'd also campaign for her.

    Votes: 129 29.7%

  • Total voters
    434
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There is much to like and admire about Condi Rice. My concern with her is that she is another of the "anointed," not a leader who has emerged from the people and achieved broad popular support. The fact that W. chokes up when he speaks her name is irrelevant to me.

We should not pick our leaders based on symbolism, sending messages, or vogues. The idea that "it is time for a woman" strikes me as naive and even dangerous. It is always time for a great leader, of any race, gender, or creed.
 
Reluctantly. Depends on who's running against her. I don't know enough about her. Just being black, female, & Republican doesn't sell me. I think she's in over her head as Secretary of State right now. I understand her background is in Soviet studies, but we're under a threat from radical Islamists. I need to know she's not another big government RINO.

I guess I'm just difficult to satisfy.
 
I would vote for her over any other likely candidate, for instance McCain. If Hillary were able to get nomination of the democratic party, it would be foolish for the republicans to run a male candidate. I know many of us here don't like her, but it seems most of America is just in love with the Clintons.
 
If she's running against Hillary or Kerry, then yes I'll vote for Rice.

But the republicans could nominate a mounted singing fish and if it's running against Hillary or Kerry, then "go, fish".

A mounted singing fish is unlikely to try to increase gun control. (treble-hooks are another issue)

Regards.
 
But, I assure you, a mounted singing fish is HIGHLY unlikely to veto any gun control bills, either. :neener:

Condi is far from perfect, but she's a darned sight better than anybody I've seen run on a major party ticket in my lifetime. And, as others have said, it would be worth it just for the sight of liberals going "scanner". :evil:
 
Nope, she is a Republican and I don't have much to say about Republicans.

Gas prices are at an all time high.
Our borders are porous.
65,000 Indian programmers are coming over in 2006.
Good jobs are moving to other countries.

I think I'll sit out in 2008.
 
a pragmatic maybe

I know she's intelligent but I never really understood how she made the jump from being an academic bureaucrat to the NSA and now to State. Her specific real-world credentials were...? We have had a lot of "brilliant minds" with impressive resumes in government screwing up the U.S. for decades. Maybe we need more street-wise people with common sense and demonstrable courage when and where it counts.
 
From the Whitehouse site, Dr. Rice's biography:

Dr. Condoleezza Rice became the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs, commonly referred to as the National Security Advisor, on January 22, 2001.

In June 1999, she completed a six year tenure as Stanford University 's Provost, during which she was the institution's chief budget and academic officer. As Provost she was responsible for a $1.5 billion annual budget and the academic program involving 1,400 faculty members and 14,000 students.

As professor of political science, Dr. Rice has been on the Stanford faculty since 1981 and has won two of the highest teaching honors -- the 1984 Walter J. Gores Award for Excellence in Teaching and the 1993 School of Humanities and Sciences Dean's Award for Distinguished Teaching.

At Stanford, she has been a member of the Center for International Security and Arms Control, a Senior Fellow of the Institute for International Studies, and a Fellow (by courtesy) of the Hoover Institution. Her books include Germany Unified and Europe Transformed (1995) with Philip Zelikow, The Gorbachev Era (1986) with Alexander Dallin, and Uncertain Allegiance: The Soviet Union and the Czechoslovak Army (1984). She also has written numerous articles on Soviet and East European foreign and defense policy, and has addressed audiences in settings ranging from the U.S. Ambassador's Residence in Moscow to the Commonwealth Club to the 1992 and 2000 Republican National Conventions.

From 1989 through March 1991, the period of German reunification and the final days of the Soviet Union, she served in the Bush Administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of Soviet and East European Affairs in the National Security Council, and a Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. In 1986, while an international affairs fellow of the Council on Foreign Relations, she served as Special Assistant to the Director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. In 1997, she served on the Federal Advisory Committee on Gender -- Integrated Training in the Military.

She was a member of the boards of directors for the Chevron Corporation, the Charles Schwab Corporation, the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, the University of Notre Dame, the International Advisory Council of J.P. Morgan and the San Francisco Symphony Board of Governors. She was a Founding Board member of the Center for a New Generation, an educational support fund for schools in East Palo Alto and East Menlo Park, California and was Vice President of the Boys and Girls Club of the Peninsula . In addition, her past board service has encompassed such organizations as Transamerica Corporation, Hewlett Packard, the Carnegie Corporation, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, The Rand Corporation, the National Council for Soviet and East European Studies, the Mid-Peninsula Urban Coalition and KQED, public broadcasting for San Francisco.

Born November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama, she earned her bachelor's degree in political science, cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded honorary doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, the University of Notre Dame in 1995, the National Defense University in 2002, the Mississippi College School of Law in 2003, the University of Louisville and Michigan State University in 2004. She resides in Washington, D.C.

July 2004
 
We have had a lot of "brilliant minds" with impressive resumes in government screwing up the U.S. for decades

Yep. I forgot all about Robert McNamara. Brilliant screw-up.

Ok, Rice has a pile of academic credentials, has held some upper staff positions, and has been on the Board of Directors for a bunch of corporations (like that's a real "job"). I don't know anything about her leadership ability. I'd still vote for her before HClinton or Kerry.

In a primary run-off between Rice and a singing fish, I'd have to read about the issues. :D

Regards.
 
Write in - Undecided.

She's great on 2a issues, but I'm also pro-life, and disagree with her on that issue.

I also have no idea where she stands on fiscal matters, and I am sick and tired of the big spending in the Bush Administration. No more big government conservatives!!!!

My first choice for president is Mark Sanford, South Carolina Governor.
 
I, too, find amusement in the fact that the Republicans have a chance at putting not only the first woman, but the first minority in office.
Could they? Yes. Will they? No.

Watch and see. It'll be another old boy, from both parties, just like it has always been.
 
I will vote for the Republican candidate, even if I vote for Const. party at the local level. If the third party stands no chance of winning, then it is certainly a wasted vote.


But wait. What message do we send by having a female president or sec of state? Don't misunderstand me. I am not saying we have to please the Muslim world, I'm saying we have to intimidate Muslim nations and potential terrorists. These cultures do not respect women, and I can't see them having any fear of a nation that elects a woman as commander-in-chief. Of course, if Condi whips their behind, then this concern is baseless, and won't those boys feel silly, gettin' beat by a girl?


Just a thought.
 
She couldn't *buy* my vote. I left the repubs in '03 thanks to Bush's immigration stance, along with his outrageous spending and the Iraqi invasion.
Ron Paul, Tom Tancredo, maybe. Otherwise, third party again.
Biker
 
God Forbid....

i have NEVER seen this country so messed up...it is surreal. and of course, where is "the chimp"...on vacation AGAIN...this time for 5 weeks while our boys ar edying in a war he created...and the chimp didn't have the guts to go to vietnam...COWARD, but he is so ready to send our boys for his payback to saddam..."he tried to kill my dad..."

btw...bush is close to setting a vacation record...way to go!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/02/AR2005080201703_pf.html

gas prices high? you bet...elect an oilman for president....btw...rice had an oil tanker named after her & she was on the chevron board for 5 years...

if rice gets elected...gas will hit $5.00 a gallon...these "compassionate conservatives" are anything but...and people are buying into it...

what bush has done to the hard working people of this country is everything but compassionate...he is a hypocrite(pro-life, yet pro-execution)...

good news is millionares went up 21% last year...i guess bush's tax cuts are working...
http://money.cnn.com/2005/05/25/pf/record_millionaires/

going back to the washington post url above...read the 3rd from last paragraph about rice and rummy...THEY ARE TIED WAY TO CLOSE TO BUSH!

anyone associated to bush that runs for president...BEWARE.
 
Vote for her? Sure, given the probable choices.

Campaign for her? I dunno, do you think that might get me a date?

I could get into being First Boyfriend. :evil:
 
Some funny stuff on here.

I really liked the comment about voting for the singing fish over Clinton. Is it just me, or is it a really scary thought to have Mrs. Clinton as President? I also liked another comment about Nugent for her running partner. To add to the list, I'd gladly vote for a blind and drunken chimp over Mrs. Clinton.
 
Vote for whoever you want. They're all just a sack of hot air anyways.

Q: How can you tell when politicians are lying?

A: When the lips begin to move, that's when they lie.

I'm voting for Madonna and her running mate, some rap artist who only knows 50 words but has 10 million in the bank.

"I only know 50 words
and I got 10 million in da bank ...
You know a hundred thousand words
and you ain't got smack jack ..."
 
Oh yeah, I also plan on becoming a millionaire and hope to pass on a big estate to my heirs and family.

When exactly did success become a bad thing?
 
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